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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Honey is a by-product of bees, the same way that all human made food is a by-products of humans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Dude, language!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

so if I buy food from people I'm basically a cannibal

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I think it’s more accurate to think of you trapping humans in your basement and leaving them a bag of groceries every once in a while. Then you go down there and take whatever they cooked with the produce. They get to eat what they make, you just get the leftovers. They also can’t leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Sure if the humans have no idea they are in captivity and their lives are basically the same they would have been otherwise.

[–] Rekorse 1 points 11 minutes ago

Except the leftovers part, bees don't make "extra" or "leftover" honey.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Actually if bees don't like the hive you put them in, they absolutely will leave. I haven't had happen to me personally but I have heard of it happening to others; you put the package in and come back to find that 200$+ worth of bees just upped and flew away.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't true for the vast majority of commercial honey unfortunately. If you're buying it from the supermarket, or any producer that operates at even medium scale, they'll clip the wings of the queen so that the hive is unable to leave even if they want to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And then they lose the hive anyway due to CCD or some nutrient deficiency that results from only consuming almond nectar.

[–] Unforeseen 1 points 4 hours ago

"Hive looks like someone put it together like a wasp.. 0/5 stars"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So… capitalism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No under capitalism the owner gets everything what you make and they will reward you with just enough scraps to keep working.

Joking aside, bees technically have the freedom to escape captivity and leave their hive. I think that is a spot on comparison to how work and living in society is often made up to be a voluntary choice and we're free to go live elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes capitalism sucks for humans, animals, and the rest of the planet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Seems more akin to letting them milk themselves and collecting it from the fridge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I don’t think so. Bees make honey for food. Humans drink their mother’s milk as babies, sure, but they don’t keep producing milk and storing it as food as a regular practice.