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If they add Fractal Tones then it'll do what the really expensive hearing aides can do.
Study on Fractal Tones:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6197965/
Example of the fractal tones Windex uses:
https://youtu.be/LTPCn749iFc?si=a1PNAq-6p9Gy5TBb&t=2m10s
Edit: Should be Widex, not Windex. Do not spray Windex in your ear!
+1 for Windex.
On a more serious note, as a wearing of a hearing aid (singular), I have to constantly take it out to put my AirPods in to listen to high fidelity music, gain noise cancellation, or have a phone call for work. I long for the day that one decide can do it all.
While they’re nice tones, I wouldn’t buy them just for masking tinnitus.
Hearing aids are expensive yes, but I’d only buy them to be hearing aids. The masking is a nice bonus feature.
Most research has found almost any sound can be an effective tinnitus masker. A lot of people that are bothered by tinnitus also have anxiety disorders and the calming tones are likely helping in other ways, like helping those people relax.
I fit hearing aids all day. Very rarely use the masker settings.
Of course it varies by tinitus sufferer.
I absolutely would not recommend dropping $7000 on a pair of hearing aides just for masking. That said, I've found that the fractal tones and nature sounds (not from the hearing aides) with various levels of sounds help me where simple white noise wouldn't.
My T can be masked by white noise but in the 85-90dBm range. It's also complicated with the fact that it's only in one ear.
Until I discovered the right nature sounds track to help me sleep, I was barely getting 3-4 hours of sleep a night.
For sure, I tell my patients there’s no right or wrong when it comes to the type of sound.
If a certain sounds works for you, use that sound!
Dumb question - which Widex app? I came across this post, and am looking in the App Store. There’s a bunch: Widex Tonelink, Widex Beyond, Widex Zen, Widex Evoke, Widex Moment, Widex Enjoy….
I know on the hearing aides themselves it's called "Zen" which includes white noise options, narrowband white noise, and the fractal tones. I also think there's an option for combining white noise with fractal tones. Don't know if there is a "notched therapy" option (play white noise or other sounds but excluding the frequency of your tinnitus.
The fractal tones can also be tuned by average frequency and the number of tones played per time period per channel. I know mine plays more tones on the ear opposite where my tinnitus is.
I'll post another reply if I can confirm a good fractal tones app. I did a short search in the past but gave up when I came up empty.
Appreciate it!
Still looking. Closest I've found so far aside from the Widex app is this web page based generator:
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/acousticPianoSoundscapeGenerator.php
They also have other background noise options:
https://mynoise.net/
It's free with optional donations.
They have an android app but it's out of date.
Edit: Theres also Nature space but likewise, their android app is out of date (unsupported on newer devices)
http://www.naturespace.org/
I’ll give a dig into that, thanks for the effort, dude!