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Fed’s new instant payment system could be trouble for PayPal, Venmo::The Fed's goal is to connect 9,000 financial institutions nationwide.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This is wild. Here in the UK we just transfer money from bank to bank in an instant using the banks own app.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here in Canada, e-transfer with 0 fees is pretty normal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been a while since I did it but you can authorize it so all e-transfers are automatically accepted and deposited. I can't think of a scenario where that would be a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have auto-deposit enabled.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How long has it been that way? We've never had that here in the states...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It’s so normal that I can’t actually remember it ever being any different. Even before the advent of mobile banking it was the same with internet banking. Instant transfers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the US we have Zelle which is free and instant, but it's still a third party your bank integrates

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Australia we've had free next business day transfers for as long as I can remember. Decades.

The transition to transfers that clear in seconds was happened gradually as bottlenecks were removed from the infrastructure one by one. Some transactions were instant a couple decades ago, but it's only in the last few years that most transactions are instant here.

These days, Visa/Mastercard are basically the slowest way you can pay someone. It's still the most commonly used option though, since it has the best fraud protection.

[–] docious 1 points 1 year ago

I do this in the States. Maybe you haven't noticed the option on the bank's site? Also make sure to use a credit union.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And I assumed it was the same everywhere!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same in Poland. That, and Blik system which let's you send money to a phone number (if it's also registered with Blik) and it's actually instant. Not "next transfer window" like Elixir transfers, instant.

And yes, completely free.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The US has this, it's called Zelle, every bank seems to have it, and it's instantaneous. For some reason it's just not popular, probably because Paypal and others are already entrenched.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

In Spain we have Bizum - transfer money using a persons mobile phone number (as long as you’re both registered with your bank). Instant and free

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same in Canada. It's like going back in time when crossing the border when it comes to banking and payment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Same with us. I don't know what these other folks are talking about. I transfer seemlessly between my accounts at different banks.