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What the hell Proton! (r.nf)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

get around local laws

That's not a legitimate use; it's an illegal use just like piracy is.

especially since SNI exists to de-mask TLS packets

ECH will finally fix this. https://blog.cloudflare.com/encrypted-client-hello/

SNI is still better than what we used to have. Before SNI, every site that used TLS or SSL had to have a dedicated IP address.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 1 month ago

That’s not a legitimate use; it’s an illegal use just like piracy is.

My understanding of the law (and yes, I read it) is that it's not illegal. The law in my state is for service providers to authenticate the ID of any state resident, it's not a requirement on the resident themselves. The service provider isn't aware what state I'm a resident of, and state law doesn't apply outside the state, so I don't know what law would be violated here.

SNI is still better than what we used to have.

I absolutely agree, and I actually use SNI to route packets for my homelab. Without SNI, I would have to route after handling certificates, which would be annoying because I want TLS to work within my home network, and I mess w/ DNS records to point to my local IPs when inside my network. I could have everything routed through a central hub (so one dedicated machine that handles all TLS), but that's a single point of failure, and I'm not too happy about that. Or I guess I'd have multiple IPs, and route based on which IP is being hit.

I'll have to check out ECH. Hopefully I can eat my cake and have it too.