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'We are all Gisèle': French women rise up against 'rape culture' during Gisèle Pelicot trial (www.usatoday.com)

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They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, "one rape every six minutes," "not all men but always a man," and "giving in is not consenting."

They chant: "Rapist we see you, victim we believe you."

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over "rape culture" and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its a shame an obviously inflammatory sign and clickbait seeking article image has made it so that the discussion is mostly off topic.

Its insane and the whole evil piece of shit that perpetrated his kink of having multiple people raped by omission and literal drugging and rape gets away from conversations by the obvious bullshit of absolutes is insane to me. how about no victim blaming on either side and recognition that rape is awful abuse of power dynamics that occur whenever its viewed as possible.

But also this post should probably be removed because that sign is meant to cause this kinda of angry response and it leads into a lot of hurt victims and happily ignorant people hand waving it away.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There were multiple people raped by omision?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Told that it was the wife's kink to pretend to be asleep and that consent was given earlier to be passed on since they would be roleplaying as soon as they got in the bedroom....
Fuck that's fucked up, typing out.

If stealthing is rape by altered consent then this certainly falls somewhere in that spectrum too.

reportedly saying he received a message on coco.gg reading, “I am indeed his wife, and I agree to welcome you.” [Source]

Edit for a quote but yeah I mean this is a huge deal and full of insane testimony that should be the basis of this discussion.

Basically threesomes where 1 of the participants have not been given a chance to fully consent and 1 was given none. Because of 1 guy who enjoyed the power he felt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think anyone practicing this kink knows to get proper consent before hand, a text message doesn't cut it. They knew exactly what was going on imo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I would hope that to be true but know that it's not how life works. So maybe stop thinking you know who everyone else is and what they know.

Obviously the perpetrator knew and from testimony some others certainly did but not everyone thinks about their life so closely.
Hopefully it inspires more people to take vocal recorded consent and have safe words/actions but even then people will still be stupid because people don't know what they don't know.

Best we can educate others, pity (where possible), and hold accountable for their actions as needed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

The men didn’t care about the woman’s consent. They just wanted to fuck so they accepted whatever was said. They’re victims of their own bad judgment.