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"Famous" AI Artist Says He's Losing Millions of Dollars From People Stealing His Work (gizmodo.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920

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Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

"But I still want to get paid for it."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's actually fundamentally untrue, like independent of your opinion, I promise that when people generate an image with a phrase it will be different and is not deterministic ( not in the way you mean ) .

You and I cannot type the same prompt into the same AI generative model and receive the same result, no system works with that level of specificity, by design.

They pretty much all use some form of entropy / noise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It’s literally as true as it can possibly be. Given the same inputs (including the same seed), a diffusion model will produce exactly the same output every time. It’s deterministic in the most fundamental meaning of the word. That’s why when you share an image on CivitAI people like it when you share your input parameters, so they can duplicate the image. I have recreated the exact same images using models from there.

Humans are not deterministic (at least as far as we know). If I give two people exactly the same prompt, and exactly the same “training data” (show them the same references, I guess), they will never produce the same output. Even if I give the same person the same prompt, they won’t be able to reproduce the same image again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I do actually believe that everything, including human behavior is deterministic. I also believe there is nothing special about human consciousness or creation tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This can actually be true, depending on how the system is configured.

For instance, if you and someone else use the same locally-hosted Stable Diffusion UI, both put the exact same prompt, and are using the same seed, # of steps, and dimensions, you'll get an identical result.

The only reason outputs are different between prompts is because of the noise from the seed, normally randomly set between generations, which can be easily set to the same value as someone else's generation, and will yield an identical result unless the prompt is changed.