Memes

45558 readers

1296 users here now

Rules:

Be civil and nice.
Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

989

“You will be more conservative as you grow older” (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

211 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry i'm harsh Cuba isn't quite a dictatorship i give you that one (Although not quite democratic either), maybe that could be a good study.

But saying Stalin or Mao are not dictatorships is just delusional.

The CIA as a source is pretty funny though.

I get it Stalin didn't quite have all powers, like that's what it took to classify a government a dictatorship. As if one-party system couldn't be complex.

(And yes socialist market economy, that really makes a world of difference from capitalist market)

Also to make things clear i wouldn't have sided with tsar or anyone else than Lenin. I do believe in communism.

Now some improvements may be from communism, i hope so, but don't pretend you can prove it more than i. It's not like life expectancy, literacy rate or other factors alike couldn't rise with another system. It's not like you could eliminate the possibility of third factors in a time with so much change in all areas of life.

But i sure wouldn't have followed Stalin in his totalitarian regime. I sure hope if communism was a solution today it would be democratic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

But saying Stalin or Mao are not dictatorships is just delusional.

They weren't, Mao was democratically recalled, even. Stalin was elected as well, and neither had total control.

I get it Stalin didn't quite have all powers, like that's what it took to classify a government a dictatorship. As if one-party system couldn't be complex.

Is having a single party all it takes to not be democratic, in your eyes? Even if everything is decided democratically?

(And yes socialist market economy, that really makes a world of difference from capitalist market)

Yes, it absolutely does, which is why China has large public infrastructure projects, large levels of state planning, is beating climate goals, and has had climbing metrics for the proletariat, instead of falling metrics.

Also to make things clear i wouldn't have sided with tsar or anyone else than Lenin. I do believe in communism.

Yet you speak endlessly as a left anticommunist. Is the only communism you support the fictional kind in your fantasies?

Now some improvements may be from communism, i hope so, but don't pretend you can prove it more than i. It's not like life expectancy, literacy rate or other factors alike couldn't rise with another system. It's not like you could eliminate the possibility of third factors in a time with so much change in all areas of life.

These metrics rose with Communism and fell with Capitalism. It's cut and dry why they happened.

But i sure wouldn't have followed Stalin in his totalitarian regime. I sure hope if communism was a solution today it would be democratic.

The literal CIA didn't believe Stalin was totalitarian, and I proved it to be democratic with an infographic on how it functioned. You can even read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan to see how it functioned.

Please, read a history book instead of parroting state propaganda, and read Marx, Engels, Lenin, and other Marxists for theory, instead of wikipedia.