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Cleaning it is a bitc*.
Edit: wth, we have profanity filters here?
Profanity filters barely begins to scratch the surface of the heavy restrictions on lemmy.ml. The admins there are also well-known for banning people from not just communities but the entire instance if you criticize China, Russia, North Korea, etc., or certain leaders of such, or communist, etc. Imagine a Truth Social instance, except claiming to be leftist instead of right-wing - their way is the correct way and that's final, dissent not allowed.
As it result, it has developed into quite the echo chamber. Not that that matters much to you bc you can access most communities across the entire Fediverse from there, or vice versa.
What may matter to you though is that many people, myself included, have user blocks in place (and lemmy.cafe has even defederated from it entirely) that prevents us from getting notifications from people on that instance. Blocking the big three instances (hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and lemmy.ml) cuts out >99% of the toxic crap coming our way, at the expense of conversations with innocent people who merely were not aware of the history of that instance and its relation to the Fediverse at large. I also lose out on a few larger communities that way but for me at least I consider it well worth the cost. So if you ever feel isolated, like people from other instances are ignoring what you say... it may be due to this effect, i.e. we may literally not even be aware that you replied to us at all.
So now you know.
Fuck Russia.
And... now you're banned from lemmy.ml. Btw, this is just a joke, but...
Tough would mean I actually gave a fuck about lemmy.ml.
I am going to go out on a limb here and think that perhaps you may truly not like Russia! (Hehehe:-P)
Profanity filter is enough for me to block the instance. Thanks for letting me know.
Thanks. Maybe i'll move this weekend.
Do as you want, but I wanted you to know your options!
Speaking of, nothing needs to be permanent - just make an alt somewhere and check it out, and you can always keep your old account (you will ofc find yourself using it less, if you enjoy the new one better:-).
Also, look at the Import/Export Settings section in your Settings menu for easier setup of your subscriptions and such.
A lot of people are recommending lemm.ee these days, but there are so many cool options to explore, just don't let that thought hold you back from doing anything at all.
Lemmy.ml does. Lemmy.world does not. Come over to the dark side.
Eh, as long as you're not spreading western propaganda you can pretty much say what you want. Fuck Russia!
Apparently you can't what with the profanity filter.
You can't use racial slurs or derogatory words, but you don't actually need to resort to such profanity to communicate a point.... and I feel that if you do, then you probably are worth filtering out.
Filtering out "bitch" is some weak sauce, man.
Ah I see, you're baiting me. Have a good day, sir!
No... I'm giving you my opinion on this whole discussion, which started with someone complaining that "bitch" is censored on lemmy.ml.
Telling that you are bowing out now though.
Yeah on .World you can use the any insult as long as it's followed by "Jill Stein" or "Donald Trump". No criticism of Kamala Harris allowed though.
Imagine censoring a Genocide and then bragging about "free speech".
Weird how you just did it then.
Oh sorry, I thought you were trolling me by literally writing "removed". I just now followed your fediverse link and can see that you wrote "removed".
Yes that word is replaced on the server. I would say it's a bit overkill too, but hey it's a derogatory word towards women, so I think there are more general words like "fuck", "shit", "dick" and "cunt" that can be swapped in to convey the same point.
Your ignorance is astounding.
inform me then, otherwise I'm just going to propagate whatever specific thing you're vaguely objecting to
The words you've suggested are more objectionable than the word you're objecting to.
If you want to claim a position of supremacy and justice in linguistic expression, you should educate yourself on the words you're choosing to use.
I'm not asserting that the word bitch is more objectionable than any other 'curse' word.
You're claiming that.
The B word at present targets women specifically. The other words can be used extremely generally and even liberally in good humour over the pond.
I'm quite surprised you take the opposite position on this, but I'm happy to learn more.
I'm not offended by it. I know of folks who would rank many of the words you've listed as much more harshly interpreted. In addition american broadcasting standards are a good starting point, if you're asking in good faith for understanding the idea.
What is your first/preferred language?
I think my search skills suck, since I couldn't find anything specific to curse words in the US, other than the "Seven Dirty Words" from George Carlin[0,1]. From what I understand, the FCC does not have an official list of words[2], even on their official website[3] (which seems to lack a fact sheet), but does seem to follow what Carlin said. That leads me to believe that the words I wrote are offensive on a cultural basis. The B word is notably absent from all these lists, which I do find strange as a Brit, since calling someone a B is far more targetted[4, see Table1] at women than calling someone a cunt or a twat (which can be used equally and even colloquially).
In German media, swearing is virtually completely allowed, though I can only find secondary sources. Hell even in our "congress", swearing happens quite freely[5].
0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words
1: https://uslawdictionary.com/seven-dirty-words/
2: https://help.prx.org/hc/en-us/articles/360044988133-A-guide-to-broadcast-obscenities-and-issuing-content-advisories
3: https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/broadcast-obscenity-indecency-profanity
4: https://www.york.ac.uk/language/ypl/ypl2/18/YPL2-18-02-Sinar.pdf, Table 1
5: https://www.vice.com/de/article/von-arschloch-bis-hurensohn-die-haufigsten-beleidigungen-im-bundestag/
fuck Russia? that's western propaganda already! Russia is an innocent nation being forced to invade its surroundings because NATO exists, it all makes complete sense as long as you ascribe to the literal geopolitical framework of the Nazis (geo-political realpolitik, yes a large part of said ideology was literally authored by a few prominent Nazis, no wonder everyone who uses it just ends up doing evil shit)
Right, and everything Russia does is amazing. Come on, whilst I agree that NATO is definitely more of an aggressor in this conflict than western media portrays, that doesn't excuse the atrocities committed within it, no more than I can accept the atrocities committed within my own western country.
All governments do bad things, and objection to one of those things does not equate unbridled support for their enemies. To see the world so black and white is hollywood fiction.
Welcome to Lemmy.ML, where "bitch" and the n-word are equally profane, and the admins render both as removed so you never fully know what's going on. If you want to have a better time, find an instance that isn't run by tankies. I made the mistake of choosing ML as my first Lemmy instance, and I didn't realize how much better Lemmy is when you're not under their thumb until I left.
Find a new instance. lammy.ml is full of damaged personalities who think its their purpose is to control others thoughts. I finally just blocked them. Since what is seen there is invariably seen elsewhere they bring nothing new and definitely nothing positive to any discussion.
"My mom won't let me say swears because she's a stupid cunt bitch."
Tbf, [email protected] is there but nowhere else, if you needed updates on Federation software (remember that link will show no posts for you bc you blocked it, but you can click through to see it from another instance including its original one).
And some other communities there are quite large such as Firefox.
Though I still blocked the instance regardless - the trade-off of having to deal with those users just wasn't worth being able to keep those few communities.
Edit: and occasionally I do see good comments from people on that instance, such as the person you responded to - those users aren't universally bad, nor are they the only source of such (lemmy.world is now probably my biggest one these days, surely only bc it's so large and kind-of a default instance). Still, I am enjoying my experience on the Fediverse now that the vast majority of trolling is cut out:-).
I by no means meant to suggest everyone who uses that instance is trash. The mods however are the worst. Also you have to admit most of the broke humans love hanging there. They rampage around feeding their love of hate and pain.