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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

not really a trait, but the lack of interest or refusal to learn english is a huge plus.

[โ€“] Vendetta9076 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why?

Clearly you're an English speaker of some sort

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

i mean i would not refuse anyone who speaks or wants to learn english. i have friends to help them with that (as best as i can, meaning helping practicing, not teaching). but idk, where i live there seems to be a certain type of person who wants to learn it, and they often tend to have some unreasonable expectations regarding how it will improve their lives. no judgment or anything, but i also try to learn a fucking language here (which turns out to be WAY more difficult than one might expect) and the more i hangout with english speakers the less i learn, because we just fall back to english. so over the years some kind of appreciation for people who simply have no interest in english seems to have emerged.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah the other comment is kinda rude but I genuinely wanna know

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

You should visit France

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait, you prefer someone who's willfully ignorant and intentionality hampers their ability to communicate with most of the world?

Do you also prefer someone who proudly proclaims that they don't read books?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

for someone with such an interest in communicating and reading, youre pretty good with reading into stuff ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is it a plus for them to not want to learn English?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was the "refusal to learn" bit that threw me.

Nothing wrong with not liking a language or having no use for it, but "refusing to learn" implies that there are good reasons to learn and resources to do so, but they refuse to, regardless. Or maybe that's just my own inference.

Anyway, sorry for being presumptuous. Hard day at work followed by a hard day at home. It's safer to be rude to strangers online than to people I have to deal with regularly IRL.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no worries โค๏ธ it was a weird way to say it, ive actually never met anyone who says they "refuse" it. but honestly the ones who want to, can be frustrating and even depressing i mean sure, its never a disadvantage to speak english, but imagine this kind of convo dozens of times [context: i live in vietnam]

why you want to learn it? - i want to work in [european county where english is not an official language and labour/immigration laws only allow high skilled workers for specific positions which cannot be filled with ppl from shengen countries]

what do you wanna work there? - customer service

then should i be the asshole who destroys their dreams or the asshole who plays along and feeds their delusions? so if someone is just not interested or is maybe learning korean/japanese/chinese (which probably will be way more useful for them regarding career stuff) its simply a plus for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is there a problem though? Yes they does should be concentrating on the language they need to speak when in said country, but it a very good idea to have some grasp of English when you go abroad, just in case you cannot grasp communication from the other party. You don't want to be stuck in Germany speaking just Vietnamese