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Zelenskyy was urged not to invade Kursk. He did it anyway. (www.politico.eu)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hypocrisy would be if I blindly excused anything NATO did or held them to a different standard. Which, you may recall, I never did.

What you're being told is that what Russia is doing is no different from what the west has been doing

Okay so what Russia is doing is the same as NATO, which is bad because what NATO does is bad? Or is it justified and NATO is also justified in their actions?

And yes I would claim you vocally support Putin and Russia, because you seem incapable of critique of a war that he is directly responsible for. And note that I'm not even claiming sole responsibility in that sentence.

And if you are wondering, I can certainly offer some critique of NATO and the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, you literally did that with the example of Yugoslavia. At leat lie about something that you haven't done in this very thread.

Meanwhile, the fact that you see rational analysis for the reasons for the war as vocal support for Putin shows just how utterly intellectually impoverished you are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Please enlighten me how I defended anyone's actions in Yugoslavia or even mentioned anything about that conflict at all.

Rational analysis, where you are incapable of addressing any wrong doing of the one person that declared an offensive war? Please attack me personally instead of acknowledging that maybe it is not so good to march into your neighbors territory and bomb their cities. But you do you. I'm sure you have your reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh my bad, it was ristoril_zip that was justifying NATO in Yugoslavia, you just kept talking about whataboutism.

Rational analysis, where you are incapable of addressing any wrong doing of the one person that declared an offensive war? Please attack me personally instead of acknowledging that maybe it is not so good to march into your neighbors territory and bomb their cities. But you do you. I’m sure you have your reasons.

Yes, rational analysis as outlined by one of the most eminent geopolitcal researches in US https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/who-caused-the-ukraine-war

Using your logic, Mearsheimer must be a Russian propagandist. I'm sure you have your reasons for spreading simplistic narratives about the war that ignore the actual reasons behind it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I see, it happens, apology accepted :)

Well since you love fallacies so much I will overlook your appeal to authority and just quote the guy, who ever the heck he is.

This is not to deny, of course, that Russia invaded Ukraine and started the war.

So yeah. What else did I claim when I said that Putin is directly responsible for the war?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

Well since you love fallacies so much I will overlook your appeal to authority and just quote the guy, who ever the heck he is.

I'm not making any appeal to authority. I'm providing you with well argued and sourced explanation of what actually happened. Notice how you did not address any of the points being made in the article.

So yeah. What else did I claim when I said that Putin is directly responsible for the war?

Nice cherry picking there because that's not really the point that the article is making is it?