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    [–] [email protected] 110 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn't matter what you run, just don't run Windows 11.

    [–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago

    windows 11 isn' all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.

    [–] Kecessa 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    No one outside of tech communities does that

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

    Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don't do this.

    Not to say it's a good operating system, though.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.

    And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.

    They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the startswith.('Windows 9') issue

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I actually really liked both windows 8 and Vista too.

    8 was slimmed down and optimized vs 7. Bootup time on my HDD equipped machine halved, performance was better, and the search was so good I never actually saw the start menu because I'd just blindly hit enter and it opened what I wanted.

    Vista had a rough start because they basically had to start fresh with drivers. But I bought a nice new machine about a year after it came out and it ran it flawlessly. Aero looked (and still looks) so cool, and XP was just a crusty old OS by then, let alone 2014 when it finally lost support.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Aero looked (and still looks) so cool

    Oof. Hard disagree.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

    You will need to after Oct 2025 unless you want Linux or Mac OS

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    I literally can't install Windows 11 on my current computer lol. I know there are workarounds for it but I don't feel comfortable doing that for my primary computer.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    I gotta be honest, I actually really like windows 11.

    Recall is awful and I hope enough pressure keeps it away (or at least as something you have to manually turn on). But besides that it's mostly just windows 10 but better. I get better battery life, better performance, I actually mostly like the UI changes etc.

    Also does nobody remember all of the hate for 10 when it first came out?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Unusable on a hard drive, would just freeze while scanning all your files. Wouldn't let you turn it off

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.

    Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.

    Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Wait i have w11 in my laptop... i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?

    Ads are fucked, thats fucked.

    But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?

    I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we'd see mass linux adoption.

    I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

    iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user's knowledge or ability to enable a local account.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

    Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison.

    Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there's a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You'd just have to seek that out and it's a pain.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    More windows hate circlejerk.

    Just upgraded to windows 11 and really like it. What's so shit about it?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    "We like the clean design and improved performance of Microsoft's latest operating system, but it still suffers from its fair share of issues. Here's what people gripe about the most."

    And they don't even mention the ads or that Recall garbage ~~thing that takes screenshots~~ being forced on you even though the public made it obvious they don't want that. That and all the telemetry; it's pretty much spyware disguised as an operating system.

    I'm sure there are more things but those are just the ones off the top of my head.

    *Edit: I remembered the name of Recall

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    *Edit: I remembered the name of Recall

    You could say you ... recalled it 😏

    Get your ass to Mars.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

    Most of those are tiny gripes, and to be honest I don't care at all about most of them. The OS looks nice, runs well, and is pretty painless. That's all I want in an OS.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

    Doesn't let you just do whatever you want. I turned off the windows firewall in windows 7 and went on with my life. Windows 11 wouldn't let me download updates with the firewall off.