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Mozilla is a sinking ship. (feddit.org)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] merc 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I looked at their jobs list and counted 35 jobs. Of that I count 9 that are AI-related and 4 that are ads-related. The list also includes a few generic jobs like "Chief of Staff", "Client Analytics Manager", "Staff Test Engineer" or "Fixed-Term Social Media Trainee".

Basically at least 1/3 of the jobs they're advertising that have a specific team mentioned are AI or ads jobs.

You can't do this with any company. The correct number of ads people working at Firefox is 0.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

First off, keep in mind the post we're all responding to is trying to use these listings to paint the entire focus/future of this company with a single brushstroke, as that is relevant context.

I see they have fully pointed the ship towards a future of AI and Ads

that statement right there.

Basically at least 1/3 of the jobs they’re advertising that have a specific team mentioned are AI or ads jobs.

oh, but they had 9 open listings for AI!!!!!! THat's a THIRD of the cOmPaNy's listings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you not aware of how big Mozilla is? https://leadiq.com/c/mozilla/5a1d88fe2400002400628c85/employee-directory

N. America: 1.5k Asia: 468 Europe: 378 Africa: 86 South Africa:44 Oceania: 25

That alone shows how insane this take is. Mozilla dipping their toes into the water with a handful of roles doesn't mean mozilla is focused on it alone (or even at all!). Secondly, there is a lot of value that can be taken from AI (both server and client-side), without even touching the subject of generating images/video/text/etc. Things like auto-transcriptions, summaries for the seeing impaired, etc.

But then we get these posts essentially fear mongering any perceived interest as slight as it may be into AI. Absurd.

The correct number of ads people working at Firefox is 0.

Here you are telling on yourself. Ads, whether you like it or not, are a huge piece of how the internet funds itself. As Mozilla is essentially the second largest browser after chromium-based ones, you absolutely need someone managing how ads integrate with your browser.

For example, there is a HUGE amount of people that don't want to mess with ad blockers and such and want a browser to protect them outright, Mozilla can do this with things like privacy-preserving attribution to protect user data while still serving ads in good faith.

Yes, it is so very easy to say FUCK ads, they don't belong on the internet.... until you want to host something and suddenly the costs can get real big real fast.

And another thing, you say "correct number of ads people working at firefox is 0"

You can’t do this with any company.

by this, do you mean cherry pick open listings by a company and pretend that those open listings are indicative of not only the companies focus but also their general distribution of efforts? Because that's all you're doing with this comment.