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[–] [email protected] 201 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And they're all chromium under the hood. The illusion of free choice.

As it stands today Mozilla is the only thing keeping google from being labeled a browser monopoly, but man can Mozilla let go of the footgun for once.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ah Safari, the IE8.5 of modern browsers...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "best" argument I've heard recently for that heap of shit? The extensions have the best UI integration! Lol

People do so much bending over backwards to excuse every shitty thing apple does.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Safari is more energy efficient on macOS compared to other browsers.

But like it or not the (artificial) hold Safari has over the iOS/iPadOS ecosystem is the only thing stopping a complete Google hegemony over the web browser market.

Mozilla is circling the drain and the few nascent new browser projects are years away from technical maturity and may never establish any meaningful market share anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Lol so I should appreciate that apple is preventing browser choice because they chose not to use chromium for the only option they provide?

Fuck Apple. This situation is on them. Preventing other browsers should have triggered governments to rip them apart for monopolistic practices. I cannot say "fuck apple" enough.

Mozilla is not "circling the drain". Firefox is great, haters can hate all they want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep definitely. I can open 100+ safari tabs but my shitty old laptop will crash if I have 20 on chrome or firefox or brave

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having more than 20 tabs open is a bad idea. And yeah it's going to be a faster browser when you deeply tied it into the OS you also built. Doesn't make it better in the least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Never said it was a good idea or that safari is better

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The nicest thing I can say about it is at least they killed Flash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

As a web dev, screw safari. Apple just randomly decides to not follow web standards some time so I spend tons of time debugging random safari issues that I CANT EVEN TEST MYSELF because I don't pay for apple products

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, not Safari. While it's technically true that Safari's WebKit engine isn't based on Chromium's Blink engine, that's only because the genetic relationship goes in the other direction: Blink was initially forked from WebKit (which was itself forked from KHTML, by the way).

Point is, Mozilla's Gecko is the only major browser engine that's fully unrelated to Blink.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

What about the Ladybird project?