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People have handguns on their hips in grocery stores. And you don’t know where the concealed carry is (most don’t) because it’s…you know…concealed.
Kahr made concealed carry its advertise/sell point and doesn’t hit the bar for most clip capacity restrictions, so it’s pretty available.
Ok, this is a large, not concealed gun. But my point is, many Americans have guns and carry them, both concealed and otherwise, even while grocery shopping with their families.
How is this walking around with a gun thing a question? It’s been even more normalized the last 10yrs than ever before since the Wild West times ended.
What’s more interesting is this is shooter #2 who was once a trump supporter and then, quite dramatically, changed his mind. This deserves some analysis. We’re getting almost no analysis on the first guy.
Yeah, definitely not in my state.
No wonder these psychopaths never feel safe. Literally everyone down there is fucking armed.
I don't think it's the fact that they're armed that makes them not feel safe. It's the constant fear propaganda they're fed via Fox News, Facebook, Twitter, and other right wing "news" sources. The alt right propaganda machines scare these people into thinking that everyone and everything is out to get them so they go out and buy a gun. In more ~~civilized~~ progressive areas, people aren't exposed to alt right fear mongering as much and if they are, their community disproves and supports them so they don't fall down the "I must arm myself to kill anyone who might harm me" rabbit hole.
Can confirm - I have an RV and whenever guns comes up in the online groups, it is clear that these people are absolutely CERTAIN they will be attacked. No "if", it's "when".
I assume these are the same people that end up murdering someone who knocked on the door of a house they thought was a friend's place, but were mistaken, or needed help in the middle of the night, stuff like that.
Hey, I’m only telling you what I’m seeing when I go outside. Seems more common than 10yrs ago too.
Usually don't do the comment history thing but I was specifically curious about said state, which appears to possibly be Ohio?
If so yes, people do carry in Ohio.
Open carry is a really dumb idea. If a crook who wanted to steal someone's gun they can easily ambush the carrier to snatch it and escape. The job would be easier if they were working as a gang. Also if a mass shooter does come by and has half a brain cell, they'll scan the area for anyone openly carrying and take them out first before starting their shooting. You'd have to be REALLY paranoid when open carrying to prevent that kind of thing from happening, and 99.99% of the time you'll end up pulling a gun on an innocent person and get into some serious legal trouble for it.
We don't have much information on the first guy because there wasn't much info to be had. The best way I can analyze his behavior based on what was released to the public is 'hmmm, I want to kill a politician and it's going to be... let me think? Who is the closest and most convenient for me to get to right now? Oh yes, Trump is having a rally. So Trump it is!'
There is no evidence that he had any thing against Trump personally or politically. He just wanted to kill a politician. If Trump wasn't doing a rally there, but the mayor of the town was going to make a speech or presentation at that very spot, then the mayor would have been the target. Crooks just wanted to kill a politician, and wasn't too picky about which politician that was.
Also he apparently planned a whole spree of shootings right after. Not thinking that trying to kill an ex-president is going to make escape practically impossible. I don't think he even realized there would be Secret Service snipers on the roof tops, and one already had him in his sights before he started shooting, thus making any escape attempt impossible.
People complain that these types of rifles count as conceal carry when it comes to bans because you can get a folding stock and keep it in a backpack on you or in your car. IMO, it defeats the purpose of concealed carry if it's not immediately available. At that point you're just transporting it.
Meeeh, leave the guns be. It's people who kill people, not guns - give man a knife and you got stabbed! Please ignore the fact that it's a lot easier to shoot someone than stab someone and thus even cowards can stab people at distance.
Let's just give USA a little bit more time. At some point one of the parties will score big win, and the other side will finally rally aaaand VIVA LA REVOLU- why is everyone dead?