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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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Will it be effective?

SpoilerNo, it was not very effective.


EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342

If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.


EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!


EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!


EDIT 4: The mod in question has now been removed as a mod of the [email protected] community, as a result of their abuse of power.

https://lemmy.world/post/19731457

This was their response:


EDIT 5: This will be my final update, since as far as I see it, the issue this thread focuses on has been resolved. To quote Beaver herself in a very ironic comment she made directed towards someone else:

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[–] TopRamenBinLaden 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

To put the shoe on the other foot, how would it sound to you if someone on the Carnivore diet, or on the Atkins diet called themselves a minority?

It just doesn't make sense, because dietary choices, are just that, choices. While actual minorities, like POCs and LGBTQ people, are born the way they are. They don't have any choices in the matter.

Don't get me wrong, dietary choices can be a super serious matter, and I am not saying that people aren't discriminated against for them. I just think its wrong to call someone a minority based on any sort of dietary choice, at least in the same context that minority is usually used.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Religion is a choice, does that make religious minorities not minorities? It's a strongly held ethical belief system.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Religion, by itself, is normally not a qualifier when we refer to minorites, as that word normally implies an ethnic or racial minority. However, there are some religions with ethnicities tied to them, e.g. Jewish people, and Muslims, so the line can definitely become a bit blurred.

Jewish people are a minority in most places because of their ethnicity, not their religion. Muslims are often referred to as minorities in most places, because most Muslims are ethnically related, at least as far as the Western world is concerned.

Some also reuse the word minority interchangably to refer to religious minorities, political minorities, etc, which further blurs the line, but the most common use of the word is in reference to race or ethnicity.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Again, veganism isn't a diet (this is painfully easy to find out if you just quickly look it up!) and if you interpret minority in a literal sense, it's true and relevant because it's easy to be overwhelmed by the majority if you're in the minority, which is what the person posting seems to be worried about.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's still a CHOICE. No one is born vegan; it's a position that someone arrives at.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So is religion, theoretically at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I agree with you. Unfortunately, the law does not. The law privileges religion as though it was inherent and immutable.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I understand that Veganism is more than just a diet. Its a lifestyle, culture, pledge to a certain set of morals, etc. It can be as important as religion is to a devout religious person.

A person on the Carnivore diet can make the same point. A person that subscribes to a political identity could also make your same point. This slippery slope leads to Nazis being able to call themselves minorities, because technically, Naziism is a culture, too, albeit a terrible one, and they are very thankfully in the minority of political beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The difference being that nazis actually should be overwhelmed by the majority.