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Are we still a nation after all these years? Do you not understand what the electoral college does? It makes sure the smaller states still have equal power in the government. Otherwise we’d split off because power would be held by a few states.
I'm thinking you shouldn't talk about the electoral college until you understand what it does because you're dead wrong
Power IS held by a few states....the swing states...that are made important because the electoral college gives them disproportionate votes. States aren't people and where you live shouldn't matter for the presidential election.
[https://fairvote.org/archives/the_electoral_college-population_vs_electoral_votes/](A vote in Wyoming has the same "power" as 2 1/2 votes from Oregon). What about that sounds right to you?
States are the centers of power in our country. Not the people. It’s why states vote for president.
What does that word salad even mean?
Have you ever taken a basic class on the United States government? States vote for the president. That’s what the electoral college is all about. In many states the electoral college has no obligation to use the popular vote for making their decision.
Typical conservative dancing around the point but not addressing it. Sad!
I clearly explained it to you. You seem to think the popular vote is how elections are won. It’s cute but not factually accurate.
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/the-electoral-college-safeguard-stable-elections
You can't read. I'm saying the popular vote is how the president SHOULD be decided and I'm asking in what way the electoral college is better. Your only suggestion so far holds about as much weight as an anti-tiger rock ("we're still a union so it's a good thing")
I explained why it’s better. It provides a more equal footing for the states. The popular vote shouldn’t be used as it’s a stupid idea. It’s against the structure of our country. We are a republic. We are not a democracy. The founding fathers hated democracy. They knew we needed rails to keep the system working.
Nowhere did you explain why it's better and now you're continuing to dance around the point.
Quit the bullshit and answer this concisely:
Why is a system where citizens in a few states to have disproportional power better than one where individuals are equal?
And don't just vaguely gesture at the country again. Worse systems have lasted way longer so "see? It clearly works!" is not a valid argument.
I explained why it’s better. Stability. Not sure why that answers seems to confuse you. It’s the stated reason for the system. A popular vote would destroy the country within a few elections. No thank you.
"My anti-tiger rock works because I haven't been attacked by a tiger so it clearly provides stability. If I didn't have my anti-tiger rock, I would be killed by a tiger within a few years. No thank you."
You don't have any reasons why it's better, I guess. Surprising :)
The burden isn't on me. You are suggesting a constitutional change. The burden is on you as to why it's a good idea. You would need an amendment, and 3/4 of the states must agree. That isn't happening as logical people know why we have the current system in place and why it isn't changing.
Didn't answer the question and rambled about something else instead. No wonder you like Trump
Who said I liked Trump ? You don’t seem to make sense. You would to change the constitution for an inferior system and don’t get the states would vote it down for that reason. Small states are not going to give up their votes.
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