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Not really. Trump calling people names doesn't disprove that others have called him names.
Sure. Nobody was trying to prove that. However, whining about it in his support is hypocrisy.
True. To be fair though, I don't support his namecalling.
Okay, but they’re qualitatively different. Saying Trump is geriatric, an attempted insurrectionist, sexist etc are sober descriptions of his behavior. The nicknames he comes up with like “Liddle Adam Schiff” are befitting of a preteen on a playground.
Trump brought us to this level of discourse - the constant juvenile practice of using demeaning nicknames for anyone he doesn’t see as on his side. It has cheapened our politics, like he has in general. What you’re complaining about is labeling. It’s not “mean names”, which seems to trivialize the serious intent in pointing out someone is racist or senile.
Yet you highlight this:
Which are responses to his constant barrage of insults based on looks/race/whatever else he makes up. Is no one allowed to retort now? You can't bemoan the "MSM" and "Democrats" when he is instigating this shit.
Retorting to some extent is understandable, but when insults are all you have left, it betrays a weakness of your political position.
You will hear Trump criticize left wing policies day in and day out, but rarely will Democrats criticize Trump's policies.
What policies does he have?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform
https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/
Harris criticises those quite regularly, as well as the policies he hasn't added to his platform which everyone understands to be something critical to a lot of one-issue voters: abortion.
A reminder that Trump pushed insults as his modus operandi from the very start; when people start pushing back in the same style you seem to have an issue.
When did she do that last?
I wouldn't care if there was substance in some of the attacks as well. Like, Trump put in X policy, and that hurt the country in Y way. Honestly I complain more about Trump's policies than Democrats do, there are multiple things he's done that have hurt the country although I still think he was a net positive. The only policies I've heard Democrats criticize Trump for during this election cycle were tax breaks for the wealthy and moving the embassy to Israel.
The problem is his policies I have gripes with are all things Democrats supported. The COVID-19 stimulus checks were the biggest thing to me since they're the primary catalyst for our looming economic crisis IMHO, but the Democrats were all on board with that. Trump also signed off on multiple gun control regulations, including the ban on bump stocks. His worst policies are left wing policies (the guy is a moderate, after all), so it makes sense that Democrats don't attack him over them.
At her DNC speech.
I... what.
I've seen speeches/interviews where they criticised the plan to deport millions of people, criticised as being unworkable and whatnot.
This is the level of political discourse we've sunk to? Complaining about name calling? How pathetic.
It’s snowflake shit.