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Perl or python for things likely to already be there. Maybe ruby or PHP if you must. I used to work in groovy a lot but I think it requires the JVM
Perl requres the perl interpreter and python requires a python interpreter. Why is it bad that groovy also needs a vm?
Perl's core to most distros and will be there already. Python isn't and can be quite heavy - plus some of are are still smarting over the major version change breaking everything and the need for complicated environments.
"heavy". It's 2024. We have gigabytes of storage on handheld phones. I don't buy it.
I work at scale - deploying scripts to hundreds of linux machines and any package you install will be multiplied that many times on the backend storage. You don't get the luxury of installing anything that isn't essential.
Ohhh, you work at scale do you? With... "hundreds" of Linux servers? And 50MB, which is basically a rounding error for most storage solutions, will break your bank? Sure Jan.
Wow, you're a dick.
Probably. But I'm not the one whining over like 5GB of data across "hundreds of systems" in 2024.
Last I checked, the JVM was larger than the standard Perl and Python interpreters, and had a much worse startup time (which is bad for short scripts).
Sorry - what potato from the '90s are you running software on these days?
Dude, I've worked with all these interpreters. The JVM's startup is slow, although there's been some improvement since the version 1.1 that I started out with. The interpreter speed is quite good once it gets going, so it remains a good choice for long-running or interactive programs where the startup is insignificant as a fraction of total program run-time, but if you're running a script that takes only a fraction of a second to execute, the JVM's startup can lengthen the time by an order of magnitude or more. Horses for courses and all that—I wouldn't write a complex interactive GUI program in Perl, either.