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As Vice President Kamala Harris received the presidential nomination at the 2024 Democratic National Convention (DNC), thousands of people marched near the convention demanding an end to U.S. arms shipments to Israel and the war on Gaza. The protesters, led by Palestinian and Jewish activists, represented a diverse coalition including anti-war veterans, climate justice activists, and labor organizers. Despite efforts by Democrats to keep the Palestine issue sidelined, the marchers made their voices heard, declaring Harris and President Joe Biden complicit in the genocide in Gaza. The protesters came from communities and movements that are often considered part of the Democratic coalition, warning that their votes could not be taken for granted unless the party takes concrete action to end the occupation and devastation in Palestine. Organizers estimate around 30,000 people demonstrated in Chicago over the course of the week, making Palestine impossible to ignore during the convention. The activists drew connections between the struggle for Palestinian liberation and the fight against racist violence and state repression in the U.S., challenging the Democratic Party's complicity in both. The protests encountered a heavy police presence, with hundreds of riot police surrounding the march at all times. Despite the tension, the demonstration remained largely peaceful as the protesters demanded justice for Palestine. As Kamala Harris prepared to take the stage, the marchers continued their chants and songs, determined to keep the spotlight on the ongoing catastrophe in Gaza and the Democratic Party's failure to address it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Voting is transactional. It is a tool. If you're voting without demands is just weird. These politicians are not your friends or family. There is no need for the weird parasocial element to it.

I stand with the protesters. The same thing happened to activists for police reform. They went through every channel and protested just to be used as a set piece and watch the Biden admin increase police funding, and didn't do much of anything. Liberals always disapprove of any form of accountability or protest. You will never please them unless you're mindlessly Blue No Matter Who.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Voting is transactional. It is a tool. If you're voting without demands is just weird. These politicians are not your friends or family. There is no need for the weird parasocial element to it.

Absolutely. But voting is also strategic. I'm not seeing any sense of strategy behind the actions of the protesters now, as other commenters have pointed out. I stand with their goal. But until someone coherently explains how their actions lead to less harm in Gaza I'm not going to support said actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

people protesting is supposed to lead to our leaders listening and changing course

women's suffrage

war protests in the 60s

protests to end segregation and demand better rights

list goes on and on

both parties now though have gotten to where they instantly demonize protesters demanding better

for example, pushing out tons of propaganda to the US citizens that enforces division and separation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think it's demonization to say "your protests are counterproductive to your cause given the current electoral reality".

Paraphrasing the other commenter, politicians are tools. So are political parties. The Democratic party is the best tool we have right now to preventing the GOP from backsliding not only with Gaza but with a slew of other progressive priorities. I don't see a lot of these protesters being able to recognize that, and it speaks in their strategy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think they have the time as each day more of their family and loved ones are being erased from existence. They're protesting nicely and mostly respectfully considering things and it still isn't good enough. The only resources they have is protests and the uncommitted movement. Outside of money there isn't any other ways to get people in power to keep their word.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

These people think haggling starts with a guarantee to buy the product. They get ripped off, then go back for more