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I had a tire that needed air in my tire, so I went to the gas station with my EV and got some in there.
That's great for now, but what happens in several years when the number of Gas stations declines? Gas stations have been great resources for air, bathrooms, and snacks on road trips. What is going to replace it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Service stations. Little shop and cafe, rest rooms and some car related amenities. If people wait a few minutes to an hour at a charger and don't need to hold on to a fuel hose, it's even more likely they'll pop in. I think they'll actually do better with more EV traffic than with ICE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On road trips sure. The majority of people with EVs are going to do the bulk of their charging at home though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right now, many people who can't charge at home (because they live in an apartment and/or rely on street parking) don't consider EV ownership to be practical... But when public charging infrastructure gets better, maybe they will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And level 2 or 3 chargers already cover almost all of those people.

People don’t generally need to charge a huge amount in a few minutes other than road trips. For the vast majority of people having chargers in parking lots that can do 100 miles an hour of charging is more than sufficient. You just plug in in the parking spot while you’re shopping and keep your car with sufficient charge all the time.

When you’re on the road is the only time that you really need a super fast charger because nobody wants to sit around for an hour to only get another hour and a half on the road, turning a 10 hour trip into 20+.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused-- You said "The majority of people with EVs are going to do the bulk of their charging at home," but now you're suggesting that the vast majority of people (maybe you meant apartment-dwellers specifically?) will charge at the mall or grocery store... Those ideas seem to contradict.

In my experience, charging at home (if you can) is super convenient, but when I lived in an apartment, keeping the car charged was excruciating: It's either queueing for one of the L3 chargers, going at some weird hour of the night/morning, or spending hours at the mall or whatever every few days to use the L2... If I was relying on public L2's only, I'd need to spend something like 6+ hours every 3 days at the mall to charge-- And that's if the L2's are even available, which they often aren't! Not practical.

Now if apartment complexes and/or employers could all get on board with providing lots and lots of L2's, we'd be set: It's not an imposition to spend 6+ hours every 3 days at work or at home :) But that's a huge amount of change to ask for, and I can imagine EV-focused service stations being a boon for folks whose residence/employer aren't stepping up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eventually, I'd imagine that they just buy every stall a cable, and there's a smart charger that delivers charge to each stall in turn. Yes it's extra copper expense, but that's the only way that charging in a garage becomes convenient

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe one day, that'd be great! Especially if that applies to parking stalls at work as well.

We'll still continue to have the problem of people who don't even have access to a parking stall where they live, though. In some buildings that I've lived in, if you have roommates, one of you probably pays extra for parking privileges and the others have to figure something else out... Plus, not every unit even gets a stall to begin with.

So even if we get this "cable in every stall" ubiquity-- already a massive project-- there will still be lots of people who can't "just charge at home."