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[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Probably the same mentality as taxes/healthcare

It's always "I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's healthcare 🤬🤬🤬"

But never "everyone pays less than they already are into healthcare and the actual service becomes free for everyone but wealthy people don't make billions of dollars off your need to live"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's always "I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's healthcare 🤬🤬🤬"

They already are.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean not quite, they pay for a portion of it through insurance, but since society is underinsured, the rest of the healthcare just doesn't get done and people die.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Incorrect. Hospitals must attend emergency patients, even if uninsured.

They make up the costs by charging everyone else more for everything. They also have to jack up costs to pay for malpractice insurance because doctors get sued frequently for all kind of reasons (valid and not).

One could argue that universal healthcare and fixes to patient rights so that civil lawsuits weren't the only means of redressing a medical wrongdoing would all actually be a lot cheaper for everyone because it properly distributes risks and costs into society as a whole, and reduces long-term and recurrent medical costs. Instead of dumping all that onto "individual responsibility" in such a way that owners of hospitals and insurance companies get rich while everyone else suffers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

If you only go to a doctor when it's an emergency, one of those emergencies will be one when it's already too late, but a simple checkup when the pain started or something was amiss would have saved you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

No. Quite.

It's baked into the premiums. If you have health insurance, you are already subsidizing the health care of others.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

To expand on this (and any ire that comes through later on is not pointed at you), that's literally how insurance works. All of the premiums are pooled together, and the costs for everyone are paid out of that pool. Except that private insurers with profit motives are inserted in between, so it costs even more.

Single payer would be less expensive and provide for more people, but ohhh noooo that would be socialism! You're goddamned right, let's fucking go already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

All I'm saying is that the service provided is subpar, because the cost prohibits people from seeking medical attention often enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

They hate they dont have or retain the abillity to take things away from the people they dont like and want to control.

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