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According to the debate, they had their reasons. But still -- when one hundred and eighty six nations say one thing, and two say another, you have to wonder about the two.

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[–] [email protected] 192 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Their reasons will not be valid, I'm not going to even entertain reading them.

We make more food than we consume on this planet—in the absence of scarcity, food security is obviously a human right, it's aggressively malignant to be against this.

Whilst we're at it, shelter is a human right too, we have several times more empty houses than homeless people in most developed nations—that's fucked.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 months ago (2 children)

we destroy excess food. hire armed thugs to keep people moving into empty shelter.

that's what your taxes are for.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

true! but only when its on its way to be burned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we destroy excess food.

FDR is to blame for that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it's (mostly) not about government subsidies anymore; it's about supply and demand being entirely uncoupled. I would put the blame far more firmly at the hands of edward bernaise and lee atwater.

remember; we do this with clothes and toys and literally every product.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worked at a job that aggressively destroyed unsold product to the point that we had a form to fill out and needed a witness to sign it.

Coworker and I "witnessed" each other "pulverizing" stuffed toys by passing them along to needy children orgs and "dumpstering" other products in thrift store donation bins.

Fuck their "brand integrity" when they're throwing out perfectly good products to make room for more crap people don't need.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

absolutely. this shit is unforgivable. the only cure is the guillotine. not just killing them, but doing it publically, showing anyone who would ever do this shit again that we ALL want them dead, and nobody will save them, nobody will come to their defense, because they do good for nobody.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

For anyone who actually wants to know, here is the U.S. Explanation of Vote on the Right to Food

For the following reasons, we will call a vote and vote “no” on this resolution. First, drawing on the Special Rapporteur’s recent report, this resolution inappropriately introduces a new focus on pesticides. Pesticide-related matters fall within the mandates of several multilateral bodies and fora, including the Food and Agricultural Organization, World Health Organization, and United Nations Environment Program, and are addressed thoroughly in these other contexts. Existing international health and food safety standards provide states with guidance on protecting consumers from pesticide residues in food. Moreover, pesticides are often a critical component of agricultural production, which in turn is crucial to preventing food insecurity.

Second, this resolution inappropriately discusses trade-related issues, which fall outside the subject-matter and the expertise of this Council. The language in paragraph 28 in no way supersedes or otherwise undermines the World Trade Organization (WTO) Nairobi Ministerial Declaration, which all WTO Members adopted by consensus and accurately reflects the current status of the issues in those negotiations. At the WTO Ministerial Conference in Nairobi in 2015, WTO Members could not agree to reaffirm the Doha Development Agenda (DDA). As a result, WTO Members are no longer negotiating under the DDA framework. The United States also does not support the resolution’s numerous references to technology transfer.

We also underscore our disagreement with other inaccurate or imbalanced language in this text. We regret that this resolution contains no reference to the importance of agricultural innovations, which bring wide-ranging benefits to farmers, consumers, and innovators. Strong protection and enforcement of intellectual property rights, including through the international rules-based intellectual property system, provide critical incentives needed to generate the innovation that is crucial to addressing the development challenges of today and tomorrow. In our view, this resolution also draws inaccurate linkages between climate change and human rights related to food.

Furthermore, we reiterate that states are responsible for implementing their human rights obligations. This is true of all obligations that a state has assumed, regardless of external factors, including, for example, the availability of technical and other assistance.

We also do not accept any reading of this resolution or related documents that would suggest that States have particular extraterritorial obligations arising from any concept of a right to food.

Lastly, we wish to clarify our understandings with respect to certain language in this resolution. The United States supports the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living, including food, as recognized in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Domestically, the United States pursues policies that promote access to food, and it is our objective to achieve a world where everyone has adequate access to food, but we do not treat the right to food as an enforceable obligation. The United States does not recognize any change in the current state of conventional or customary international law regarding rights related to food. The United States is not a party to the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. Accordingly, we interpret this resolution’s references to the right to food, with respect to States Parties to that covenant, in light of its Article 2(1). We also construe this resolution’s references to member states’ obligations regarding the right to food as applicable to the extent they have assumed such obligations.

Finally, we interpret this resolution’s reaffirmation of previous documents, resolutions, and related human rights mechanisms as applicable to the extent countries affirmed them in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We also underscore our disagreement with other inaccurate or imbalanced language in this text. We regret that this resolution contains no reference to the importance of agricultural innovations, which bring wide-ranging benefits to farmers, consumers, and innovators. Strong protection and enforcement of intellectual property rights, including through the international rules-based intellectual property system, provide critical incentives needed to generate the innovation that is crucial to addressing the development challenges of today and tomorrow

"We're fighting to protect John Deere profits..."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

My first thought was Monsanto

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some of these seem quite valid, but I really hope “intellectual property” isn’t the real reason. Poorly written regulations are too easily invalidated or ignored, so the feedback to “stay in your lane” seems important. However our corporate masters should not be able to dictate the basic right to food

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So yeah. A bunch of bullshit procedural arguments.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Well yeah that's the thing, a treaty isn't (or at least shouldn't) be a vague "helping people is good and being mean is bad"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The text is here

I started looking into this further and the tweet is misleading. To start with, the graphic is totally inaccurate. This was a vote by the UN Human Rights Council, not the full general assembly. The US was the only country that voted against, with one abstaining. Israel wasn't involved. It's also worth emphasizing that the right to food has been established in other international agreements, which the text cites extensively and the US justification refers to near the end.

Edit: I was somewhat incorrect on the vote, there was a later general assembly vote, which the Instagram account that created this links to. However, their effort to imply that the US somehow hates people being fed is still misleading.

[–] Lucidlethargy 2 points 3 months ago

As a US citizen, it is a point of great shame that we have so many struggling to eat enough (and/or healthily enough), as well as pay their medical bills.

We are a nation with great influence and military might, but the richest Americans are often a direct reflection for what this nation as a whole truly is... It's a wealthy place that doesn't take care of its own citizens.