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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seriously Jesus. You're a cool guy, and I know your thing is you take in the broken, but your other thing was suppose to be love. Like you said one commandment, love, and that shit is severely lacking.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think the person Jesus actually was loved everyone, but the trouble is conservative people hate gay people and rewrote the texts to say that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Jesus, the historical figure was trying to reshape Judaism. He wanted to reform things and he wanted the focus to be on loving your brother. He got killed for it and he knew it would kill him because he was hanging out with the religious leaders.

Then by a miracle he succeeded because he didnt have any transgressions against the temple and he followed Jewish teachings but was still setup to be crucified in the worst way imaginable.

Then after that he was co-op'd for other purposes but his message is still true. Believing in christ is believing a man named Jesus lived and he was killed by no fault of his own but for the benefit of others.

Being a Christian means you understand Christ's message. Its real easy, love your brother, and you live in a way that reflects that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And for God's sake stop hating queer people. It's absolutely against everything Christ teaches and is a made up bit of nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Christ today would hang out at pride festivals and preform gender affirming miracles.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Here is a beautiful poem about that:

THAT'S what Jesus is, not some holy slobbering uneducated filth yelling about groomers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is this from?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's by the poet Jay Hulme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Another beautiful poem about it, more specifically against everything that ~~religious Karens~~ conservatives stand for:

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

1 Corinthians 13

Looking at the hate and anger that they spew... how can anyone remain convinced that they are about "Christianity" aka love?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Love that passage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well... A lot of their biblical evidence is less a rewrite and more of a translation issue. Take the whole Sodom and Gehmorra story about tje two angels that everyone is so keen to turn into a condemnation of the gays.

In the OG text the words used to describe the angels were analog to genderless forms of the word "master" and because there were two of them they were always referred to by genderless they/them plural... Which is probably why there were two of them. We are probably supposed to imply the perceived gender of the angels was irrelevant to the tale.

The first Latin and English translations off of Hebrew however used gendered terms for the two angels that coded them as male. Stuff like "Masters" "Lords" that kind of thing in large part because those societies were respectively fairly misogynistic and not primed to interpret either of the two genderless entities as possibility female coded. Then you see the anti same sex interpretation gain popularity in the case of England and France at the time they were going through a population crash via plague which caused amoung other things criminalization of same sex unions as a threat to sexual replacement of a sharply diminished population. So really we can trace this story being interpreted as God's condemnation of the gays rather then just regular old rapists around the same time the word "sodomy" came into the lexicon in the 1300's and the first waves of plague.