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[–] [email protected] 146 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Another day of being extremely thankful I decided not to learn JavaScript

[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 month ago

I mean, the people relying on such packages didn't learn it either.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Look at what you're missing!

Edit: also, is-odd depends on is-number

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

These are both made by the same person from this PR (who also made both the package the PR is on, and the is-number package that is being removed as a dep)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Heaven forbid they make a package is-even-or-odd with both. Wait. Don't give them ideas. They'll just make it depend on both.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This can happen in any project that uses dependencies, javascript or not

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sure, but when was the last time you saw, say, a Python project using some third-party library instead of simply calling isnumeric() from the standard library?

There's a reason for these jokes always being about Javascript.

[–] FlorianSimon 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Python has other stupid problems related to pip. As much as stupid micro-dependencies suck in Javascript, they're not the shitshow managing dependencies in Python is. It's an inefficiency that never actually caused me noticeable issues in my former webdev life.

And let's not talk about C++... People reinvent all sorts of wheels all the time because sharing anything is so annoying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

And let’s not talk about C++…

Don't worry, people make plenty of jokes about C++ too.

Hell, people joke about my favourite language too - Cargo build times are a meme unto themselves.

I don't think there's a truly great dependency management system there. Though all in all, I've generally had no MAJOR issues with Cargo, Maven or Gradle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol just use a virtual environment, it's the default now anyways

[–] FlorianSimon 0 points 1 month ago

I know it is, and I find it to be a pretty ridiculously complex fix for a self-inflicted wound.

The disruption it's caused me outweighs by far any minor inconvenience with the multiplication or micro packages in the NodeJS world. There's that, and the Python 2 vs 3 shitshow from which the world still hasn't fully recovered from yet.

I mean it: Python has no business laughing at Javascript. Get your act together, snek 😜

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I only glossed over it… but this looks like it’s trying to check dynamic typing issues? It’s like a statically typed language with extra steps?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

I don't think typescript exists because JavaScript wasn't designed to be statically typed. I think Typescript exists because JavaScript wasn't really designed, period.