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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (9 children)

You forgot to list other Trump records:

Most felonies for a candidate of a major party. Most impeached candidate Only candidate to have advised the public to inject or drink bleach

I'm sure I'm forgetting some others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Only candidate to have advised the public to inject or drink bleach

I know this is a popular meme, but he never actually did say this.

Trump is scum, but I wish we'd continue highlighting the things he actually did regarding COVID rather than rolling out "inject bleach" which the record easily refutes instead of something he can't deny.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He definitely did suggest that bleach may be helpful with a Covid infection. It was not an outright statement, but he entertained the idea during a press conference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nope. He never even said the word "bleach".

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/28/joe-biden/biden-exaggerates-trumps-pandemic-comments-about-d/

Please, if we're going to criticize, let's criticize facts. It only gives him ammunition when we attack something that never happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This was exactly what he said, moments after a presentation on the relative effectiveness of UV light and bleach on killing the virus on surfaces. When he says "the disinfectant," he's talking about bleach, even if he didn't know the name of it.

“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Seriously. I saw it with my own eyes, and this dude is trying to gaslight us that we imagined it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

This is a valid point, and therein lies the brilliance of Trumpism—he rattles off enough inane babble, no one can remember exactly what he said at any given moment, nor can anyone be certain about what it is he meant even with on-the-record statements.

There is no object truth with convicted felon Donald J. Trump—just relative truths where the narrowest window is blown completely out of proportion and we're left with interpreting the exact size of said window.

The worst part about this is that we're left in the lurch squabbling over what is essentially word diarrhea. At this point, to most of us here, I don't think it actually matters any more what he said—he's a shit person spewing shit from his mouth and he has no business leading a country, let alone a business, and we agree on that.

But the objective truth is important, partly to hold ourselves to a higher standard than convicted felon Donald J Trump, but also to clarify misinfo as much as we can for the sake of posterity.

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