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GOP wants to hold Harris’s immigration record against her - what did she do?
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Yes, of course. Kamala Harris made El Salvador invest in crypto, corrupted Argentina's government to print money, worked with cartels to overtake local governments and police forces in Mexico, and forced Guatemala to replace their economic systems with straight bribes. Damn that Kamala Harris.
Anyone capable of doing all that deserves our vote just in the hopes they show us mercy.
And here I thought all the strongman bootlicking only happened in the other party
How thick must one be to take that statement seriously?
We should be building dams outta this guy
Ah, when our side makes excuses for violent authoritarianism it's a joke, but when their side does it we should all be really concerned, I'm sure that'll resonate with the average voter and help stop the spread of fascism /s
I never said it was a joke. More like a hyperbole pointing out the farce of an argument that Kamala Harris is omnipotent.
Also "our side" or "their side". When it comes to politicians its always correct to look at words & actions. Republicans ARE more evil than Democrats.. considering recebt WORDS and ACTIONS. even if the difference is small.
If she actually tried and was unable decent and humane treatment for Central American migrants in the countries she was working in while she was addressing the root causes of migration or whatever bullshit buzzword they called it she needs to explain how and why and call out the people or institutions that stopped her from doing this. The fact that she doesn't do this makes her part of the problem.
I agree, which is why I'm going to do what I can to be a pain in the ass of the Democratic party every time I see them acting like Republican assholes (e.g. perpetuating the racist abuse of migrants and asylum seekers)
I mean, certainly the US isn’t uninvolved in fuckin up the economies and safety status of all these places that have gradually been becoming hellholes. You didn’t mention Honduras or Venezuela I noticed… yeah I mean not everything is our fault, but some is.
To the Biden administration’s credit, it was trying to pursue some kind of theory that what Harris was gonna be in charge of was addressing the root causes of this huge surge in immigration from the South. But even if we posit that she’s making a sincere effort in that regard (which, okay fine, I am fine with positing), what’s she gonna do? She’s gonna show up in her little Vice President cape and order the whole of US government and industry “Hey! I need you to stop stealing resources and destabilizing a nearby part of the world that’s not strong enough to prevent it! That is NOT COOL!” and they’re just gonna think it’s funny and keep doing it.
Resource curse is a MF. When your government is no longer reliant on its people to fund its political class, all sorts of short/medium term chaos ensues.
This isn’t to say that the US doesn’t have some responsibility in cases, just that the situations are incredibly complex annd it’s easy to scapegoat the bogeyman for all of your woes.
Sure is strange how that resource curse seems to mainly happen in countries with a history of colonization and having their natural resources exploited by foreign political classes
Russia was a colonial power, then it found oil.
There are also some justifiable fears that Australia is becoming a vassal state to China. I suppose one could argue that Australia was a colony (but I’d argue that the US was one too).
Just saying, it can happen to any country.
In practice, hold closed door meetings with the police enforcers and tell them to be more comprehensive in their enforcement before setting them up with drones and computers and guns needed to do it, and then scoot out of town before she has to witness those enforcers torturing and extorting and working with criminal gangs and etc.
To be fair to Harris and the Biden administration, this has more or less been US policy for a very long time
FFS, I so wish more people had more than like a high school level understanding of our government - she's going to tap into funds created by Congress for general purposes and placed under the administration of the executive branch to give grants or directly purchase computers and drones and guns (or maybe cover payroll expenses and things like that). Or, if she gets concerned about reports of human rights abuses or corruption or whatever, she can withhold that money and those materials (but we never do that, whether it's Latin America or Israel or the Memphis Police Department, because nine times out of ten when organizations like those do bad things Americans never hear about them).
The power of the executive branch has only been expanding since Newt broke Congress in the 90s and W got to just keep playing the War on Terror card over and over in the early 00s, but we've got people out here running around acting like it's a totally ceremonial office because nobody in the media or anywhere else wants to do the hard work of explaining how the Byzantine nonsense works and why we always have such an easy time throwing millions of dollars at guns and guards.
Do you have citations about this stuff? If you wanna replace my flip high school understanding of how the VP can (and has been, under Biden) impacting foreign policy with something more factually based, I'm down for that idea.
Off the top of my head, chapter one of this book covers a ton of this in the northern triangle area of South America specifically - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672038/soldiers-and-kings-by-jason-de-leon/
e; Like I said, it's Byzantine nonsense that nobody with the knowledge to speak to wants to, but a few other sources that start to get at what I'm talking about
Awesome; I'll check it out. I'm not saying I necessarily agree ahead of time, but you're not wrong that I have no real idea about it beyond some stereotype guessing.
Thank you, that's more than reasonable
Also, I added a few more sources
And all in the last four years.
Yes, of course, the United States has definitely never propped up any right wing death squads in Latin America, and it doesn't send their highly corrupted police forces tens of millions of dollars in military aid and then turn a blind eye when the gang members those forces employ extort and abuse and murder people, we've always been so committed to human rights down there /s
Didn't start with Kamala, but she sure didn't change shit about it
Interesting take, what’s your current thoughts on the Venezuelan elections?
Haven't read up on that because I'm a bit busy staying on top of my own country's election, but to cut to what you're really asking about - the US is certainly not the only government violating human rights in the area and the Venezuelan people deserve better than what Chavez and Maduro have delivered to them, imo
I agree with your sentiment, but I’m concerned that they’re putting all of their “faith” in a far right candidate. They’ve made her a cult of personality.