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But no sd card, or changeable battery, or audio jack. Vote with your wallets. I like moto G series, but edge lines are terrible
I have an edge 30 pro and I'm super happy with it. There is no bloatware at all, default android experience, and great battery time.
I tend to recommend Motorola to people who care about those things.
Edge 30 Fusion here, quite happy. If only it had an audio jack...
But that thing is really starting to disappear, and I'm not going to pay an highly expensive Xperia just for that.
How are the thermals? I hear they have heating issues due to their slim profile.
Not warm at all except when charging with the super charger. This is for the edge 30 though, maybe 40 or 50 have different thermals since they have more powerful cpu.
I'm currently looking at edge 50 as a replacement but not sure which one to get. But not the ultra, very expensive and not worth it.
Yeah, it's unfortunate sdcard is not a staple feature in higher midrange and flagship smartphones.
User replaceable batteries may make a comeback due to EU regulation.
This is absolute bollocks. Unless you are buying dogshit budget phones, they all continue to run fine after 4 years. I have phones from 2017 and 2018 that continue to operate without major issue today. Until very recently most Android phones weren't even receiving feature updates beyond 4 years so I suspect you've just completely fabricated this story to justify your upgrades.
One phone in my family is a ~~2017~~ 2018 flagship, and people are amazed how snappy it is (they don't know it's from 2018).
Its running a fork of Lineage, with 2 or 3gb of ram (I forget). Because it's so optimized, even with a bunch of apps (~200), it's fast and battery does pretty well.
Old phones can run fine, but they have to be managed to do so.
Edit: 2018 flagship.
Yeah, LineageOS can definitely help a lot. I have a Redmi Note 4X from 2017 with 3 GB RAM and a Snapdragon 625. It was fine running an older version of MIUI despite being a budget phone, but after switching to LineageOS it runs even better. But to be honest you don't even need a lighter ROM like LineageOS if the phone was a good one at release. I also have a Galaxy Note 9 from 2018 which is running stock and that still feels great despite how heavy OneUI is. Often these older devices just need a reset to clear out all the junk that accumulates over years of use.
I think the questions over whether some newer phones can handle five or even seven Android version upgrades are valid, since that has never been attempted before (though I still like to see those commitments). But that is very different to saying every phone until now has magically turned terrible after 4 years, when it's likely only running a version of Android that is, at most, two above what it started with.
People lie to themselves all the time to justify wasteful consumerism.
The OnePlus 12 was released less than a year ago. It has 3 1/2 years of software changes ahead of it. You are proving my point here by implying a 7 month old phone needs to be replaced after a single bad update.
That's not what you said originally:
So you admit that age is not actually the relevant factor here? Your complaint is bad updates, not the age of a device. And if bad updates are the problem, which you admitted they aren't for you when you said you'd "never used a phone long enough for this to matter" then your claim that replaceable batteries are irrelevant is also nonsensical. It's as I suspected: you've concocted some weird fictional narrative as a coping mechanism for the cognitive dissonance that comes with repeatedly replacing phones that are absolutely fine.
Nice try, but that's a) a dogshit budget phone and b) one that is 8 years old, not 4.
I don't even really care about fast charging. As long it can fully charge while I'm asleep I don't care if it takes all night.