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Hyprland is now fully independent! (hyprland.org)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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geteilt von: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/19377025

[...] I announce that our move off of wlroots is now complete and MR 6608 is now merged.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a very bad decision

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why? Hyprland has been limited by wlroots multiple times in the past.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do you have examples of this? Not being contrarian, I actually run Hyprland myself. I'm just curious where the limitations of wlroots have been.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

the blog post inside the linked blog post goes over some points. each point is copy and pasted more or less.

like for example the multiple times I've spent dozens of hours debugging a single issue only for it to turn out a small typo or a careless mistake that any language would catch at compile time, except for C
Memory safety issues arising from the absolute lack of any documentation whatsoever of wlroots have also been quite the annoyance
The development of a display server is very complicated, as they are very broad and complex pieces of software. Mixing a C library with 0 documentation is basically asking for trouble.
new wayland features that require changes in wlroots tend to take ages to get merged into wlroots, like for example tearing, where a basically ready MR took 9 months to merge
explicit sync still not being a thing, despite KDE and Gnome having implementations already (I believe it is now, but not at the time of the blog post)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhZ_HnqkJoo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

competing standards

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

this doesn't apply here. hyprland has announced that "all your wlroots programs will still work". so they are keeping support for wlr protcols

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think its a good idea not having wlroots everywhere, its important so that people dont just assume every wlroot extension is available

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People advocating for Xorg make exactly the opposite argument and wlroots got a home at FDO for a reason. Also, this is not a move away from wlroots on technological grounds, it's because the Hyprland developer got banned because of his behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Hyprland never used wlroots itself. It always used a fork of it.