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Biden calls for justice after footage released of police killing Black woman
(www.theguardian.com)
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Ignoring race, because you keep bringing it up to excuse shitty Police behavior.
Police closing the distance on someone they see as violent is an escalation of violence. She would very likely be alive today if they didn't choose to make the situation worse by escalating.
Pulling a gun and retreating, then shooting if she advanced, yep shooting is fine. Putting her in a corner and shooting when she flinches thinking she's about to die? That's murder. I don't know how you are too dumb to understand this.
Did you watch the tape?
I've re watched it dozens of times because I'm morbidly curious. That cop is a shit bag who was looking to kill someone.
Did you watch it without masturbating over authority figures?
Jfc... Some big presumptions there.
It seems obvious to me that if you threaten to throw boiling water over a cop, and they pull their gun and state they will fence themselves if you try....
Well, you put yourself entirely into her position.
It's either suicide by cop or she was truly dangerous enough to harm innocent people..... Yaknow... Because of the whole teaching for boiling water with anger on her face in an attempt to throw it on innocent people.
Gun and boiling water are not equal. Stop being dumb.
Did... Somebody claim they were?
I'd the best argument you have .. pretending somebody said something that you CAN argue against?
The question isn't is a gun equally capable of damage as boiling water.. the question was nice and simple.. did you grab pot of boiling water after threatening to do damage with it to innocent people?
Did you do it specifically after law enforcement pulled their weapons and told you that if you do what you claim they will shoot you.....For entirely obvious reasons....
Next you will tell me if it was a white man behaving in the exact same fashion then cop would have taken the water?
Lots of words to explain poor logic.
Next you will tell me if it was a white man behaving in the exact same fashion then cop would have taken the water
You don't even deny that. Interesting
I'm white as fuck and I've had an officer pull his gun on me for telling him I had to reach into my pocket for my wallet. You have an extremely fucked view of American police for someone who doesn't live here.
Heres my opinion you keep pretending you didn't notice. He should have left the house he had no legal reason to be inside of. Checking id is not something he was required to do. He did it to make himself feel big. Last time I had to call the sheriff for domestic violence at my neighbors house they didn't need my ID. That POS cop killed someone by escalating at every chance he had just to leave her alone.
Please stay in your country and keep your useless opinions about our fucked up police forces to yourself.
No legal reason? Someone called 911 asking the police to come over.. then they found the car... With smashed windows.. she denied it was hee car.. then says it is her car.
It makes complete sense to get her id at that point considering if she has harmed somebody else.. (which it very much looks like she was capable of doing based entirely on her behaviour).
Imagine how bad these cops would have been at their job if she harmed someone else int be days after...a Nd they didn't even ask for id to check her after being called out.
What? Property ownership doesn't have anything to do with identification. Police don't have free reign to force people to identity themselves because a person is unsure of who's car is on their property. Entering the home is a huge issue as well. I guess a cop can force their way into my home for the unregistered car in my backyard and shoot me too.
I don't need to imagine anything, that's slippery slope BS.
Make sure to lick the boot while it's on your throat.
She called 911, didnt she? & there's zero evidence of them forcing themselves in. No reason to doubt she didnt say it was ok to enter..
& her behaviour is visible unhinged outside her door.... for all the cops know, the person they are talkign to may be the reported prowler (with the actual caller locked inside) IT makes sense from me that they just quickly get id.
As I stated before. Police have no right to identify you just for calling them. Even when a crime is committed verbal confirmation of your identity is more than enough. Identification is not required in the vast majority of situations, including this one. Until you get to the paperwork, then it is correct to identify someone. You've watched too many cops episodes or you fundamentally don't understand American policing.
Forced entry was incorrect on my part. It's sort of the same situation as shooting that drunk guy in a hotel. Just because someone is unable to respond coherently doesn't make them the suspect.
You're entire argument is based on the "what ifs?". Which is extremely authoritarian.
Also, the police could not have known if she was the home owner... She could have been the reported prowler.
They had to check that.
And how do you excuse her behaviour?
If a police cam of this behaviour came out.. and they didn't ask for her id.... And she goes on to harm someone.. they would be held partially responsible.
Which is good. Hold police accountable for doing their jobs. Not for 'not doing their jobs.'
Do you know if she had any warrants or known issues with police/mental health?
Since we are playing hypotheticals. I too agree with executing the mentally unstable.
Oh. I don't.
Only if they reach for a pot of boiling water after threatening to use it to harm police... and after they lift their weapons and inform them they will fire if the person goes for that weapon. Only in those instances. And similar.