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She’s already broken barriers, and now Kamala Harris could shatter several more after President Joe Biden abruptly ended his reelection bid and endorsed her.

Biden announced Sunday that he was stepping aside after a disastrous debate performance catalyzed fears that the 81-year-old was too frail for a second term. 

Harris is the first woman, Black person or person of South Asian descent to serve as vice president. If she becomes the Democratic nominee and defeats Republican candidate Donald Trump in November, she would be the first woman to serve as president. 

Biden said Sunday that choosing Harris as his running mate was “the best decision I’ve made” and endorsed her as his successor.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So long story short, do you believe that there was no preferential higher of non-white applicants over black applicants? This is a simple yes or no answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Long story short, do you believe there are fewer non-white employees than would be expected given the population of candidates? This is a simple yes or no answer?

Critical thinking bonus round:

  1. do you believe all the fortune 100 companies colluded to replace whites with non-whites?
  2. Do you believe DEI functions at all 100 biggest companies have power to compel almost all hires be non-white?
  3. Do you believe the prior round of layoffs was likely racially balanced?
[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

do you believe there are fewer non-white employees than would be expected given the population of candidates?

No.

do you believe all the fortune 100 companies colluded to replace whites with non-whites?

Colluded implies wrong doing, but giving preferential treatment to minorities due to their race has been a semi-legal thing since I was a kid (and maybe longer), so no not colluded, did out in the open.

Do you believe DEI functions at all 100 biggest companies have power to compel almost all hires be non-white?

Yes

Do you believe the prior round of layoffs was likely racially balanced?

I dont know, but not radically or it would have been reported over and over and over and over and over.

Now you answer my question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I certainly hope there was preferential hiring for under-represented demographics. That’s the whole point. However it’s naive to jump right into the deep end where you’re going.

DEI efforts can make some differences in set of employees to hire and which are chosen, but they’ve never had the overwhelming power you’re ascribing. That’s not realistic, given the size of the hiring

The data was similar across almost all of the Fortune 100 in the same period. The odds of that are extremely remote, unless there is collusion or some other factor.

Why is it easier to believe DEI efforts have such overwhelming power to control virtually all hires and collude across all the biggest companies than to believe the explanation given in the article? Prior layoffs of low level employees were predominantly non-white, so hiring them back was too

If there is such an issue, you’d see it in more time periods. Do you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So long story short you are in favor of racist hiring policies as long as it harm particular groups that you want to harm?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So long story short, are you in favor of racist hiring, and continued racist advantage for people of your favorite skin color, regardless of less opportunity for those who look different from you? Are you in favor of keeping hiring pure, white people on top, and everyone else can “pull themselves up by their bootstraps”?

If you look back at that article, you could see the data that even after this period, non-whites were under-represented, especially in positions of authority.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I am in favor of hiring people that are best for the job. This is a yes or no answer; are you in favor of hiring people based on their skin color if it advances an agenda such as higher representation of a race in a particular area? Would you pick a less qualified minority of a more qualified white person?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The argument is that’s already been done, unless you believe white people are inherently smarter and more capable.

Assuming all humans have similar potential and similar opportunity, you’d expect over a large population such as the employee pool of the 100 largest companies, the mix of demographics will be similar to the population at large. Why isn’t it?

While I’m sure there are a few hires purely for quota, giving opportunity to those who would otherwise be denied is a good thing. I’ve always worked in very diverse companies and have found people equally capable regardless of what demographic group you try to stick them in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Why isn’t it?

Because different demographics have varying levels of different qualities. Does every demographic commit crime and attend college at the same levels? No, and for whatever reason they dont there would be a similar reason for why demographics are different at work.

Are you unable to answer the questions I give? I say its a yes or no answer, and there is neither of those words in your answer.