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Hello, Protestant German here. I’m hearing a lot about the infamous Quran burnings in Sweden, and find it very strange. To me it’s fighting fire with fire, and as Muslims are very religious I can imagine it hurts them a lot.

Can someone help me understand how this makes sense?

Maybe I don’t have the full picture. Thank you!


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The original was posted on /r/sweden by /u/Haidenai at 2023-07-20 10:33:35+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

-Bleckplump- at 2023-07-20 11:57:50+00:00 ID: jspxam2


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" 

-Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I personally think that the ones who are burning the quoran is kinda ignorant, stupid and are most certainly trying to get a reaction. But they are well in their rights to do so. Freedom of speach and freedom of expression is a thing in Sweden and nothing to be suppressed by any person, leader, cause, religion etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haidenai (OP) at 2023-07-20 15:32:57+00:00 ID: jsqodxt


Is it freedom, if it makes someone else smaller?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

-Bleckplump- at 2023-07-20 15:40:07+00:00 ID: jsqpj7z


Who has been made "smaller"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Haidenai (OP) at 2023-07-20 15:42:24+00:00 ID: jsqpw9w


You are deliberately insulting Muslims and saying their culture is dumb. Smaller in this sense. You of course, are the last “tall” aryan bulwark. ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

-Bleckplump- at 2023-07-20 16:14:56+00:00 ID: jsqv4o8


Why would you presume that I am the last tall aryan bulwark??? Not really true there, buddy.

Also I have not insulted any muslim, nor have I said that their culture is dumb (religion and culture is not the same) And if you are talking about the royal you, as in Swedes and Sweden as a country that is just false.

Seems like you are the one judging a whole country based on the action of a few persons? In this case famously a danish person and a Iraqi immigrant? Two people burn a book and all of the sudden the country and all its citizens are hateful and insulting. The government have said that this they do NOT support this action, most of the swedish citizens do not support the actions nor do they agree that it is the right thing to do. But, and here is the whole point. It is well in someones rights to do so.

I will reiterate "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

I would say that it is far more it is far more hateful to storm and burn an embassy than the burning of any book.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

dr_s_falken at 2023-07-20 18:00:06+00:00 ID: jsrca0l


The problem here is islamists wanting to decide what non muslims can and can't do.

Why should they decide what we can do?

You really should understand the concept of free speech as a German.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

IssuePuzzleheaded979 at 2023-07-20 15:51:11+00:00 ID: jsqrbha


Their culture is ”dumb”. They are stuck in their religious shackles.. I’m of course sorry about that, however, we won’t accept religious shackles in our country. Btw, nice try to anger us by calling us racist. One of the most common words in Swedish debates for the last 10-15 years. This is not racism and it’s your problem if you won’t try to understand.