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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Remember, who made the flashlight for the scientist? The philosopher.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The amount of "science fans" dismissing philosophy is ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't see this as being dismissive of philosophy at all. Science has always stood on the shoulders of philosophy. In the context of the meme, it established the possibility of the black cat existing. It's the baseline. Science then used tools to test the idea, while metaphysics and theology are off somewhere making unfalsifiable claims.

Judging by some of the responses, I'm in the minority with this interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

If it puts us in a minority to regard scientific achievement as owing a debt of gratitude to epistemology and empiricism, not to mention ethics and countless other branches of study that cannot be taken for granted, then so be it. To take science on its own as merely a self evident and wholly objective practice solely fit for solving problems and creating better technologies is as boring as it is anti intellectual.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

This meme is highly misinformed about how any of these academic subjects work though. (Meta)physicists and theologists don’t make claims, they research the consequences of certain assumptions. Most elementary sciences work that way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It's not about whether or not the meme is dismissive of philosophy. It's that the writer clearly doesn't understand the basics of these fields and the kinds of questions they ask/answer, including science. Heck metaphysics isn't even a separate field, it's a sub-field of philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It's completely insane how they think science somehow invalidates philosophy. First off, it doesn't even ask the same questions, and only really applies to the physical aspect of the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I agree with the conclusion of your metaphor but I think that literally "the scientist" invented the flashlight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

who made the flashlight for the scientist? The philosopher.

You misspelt engineer.