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Nobara 40 released (nobaraproject.org)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

GE mentioned this update will be a smooth transition.

Also is Nobara a good candidate for daily driver or bazzite?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The existence of both is justified for their unique merits. However, I'd argue that the 'immutable'/atomic model makes more sense for a system that's dedicated towards gaming.

For a general daily driver, it all comes down to your specific needs. If Bazzite satisfies those, I'd argue it's the safer pick. However, if (for some reason) Bazzite falls short^[1]^, then go for Nobara instead.

There's a lot more to it than this, but I kept it short for the sake of brevity.

Honestly, there's only very little that Bazzite actually can't do. Though its unique workflow might require some adjusting. Regardless, if you go for Bazzite, ensure to take a proper look at its documentation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I am very interested in what you are saying. I've been trying Bazzite for a while now and I ran into some quirks I couldn't resolve - tiny stuff, that's mainly a small inconvenience like not being able to put icons on the desktop with Steam due to it being Flatpak and Valve not having enabled that specific option) -

BUT -

I've also tried Nobara then was kinda put off by people saying something along the lines, that GE disabled some security features for better performance (and since it was a distro for personal use at first) and I tried to search for the details, but came up empty. Could you say a bit more about this or where I could find more info, please? Cause I'm using my distro as daily driver and not only for gaming, so it got me worried a little.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

like not being able to put icons on the desktop with Steam due to it being Flatpak and Valve not having enabled that specific option)

Interesting. Bazzite has (for some time now) been shipping the native Steam package; so not the Flatpak one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh yes, that's entirely my own fault. I first installed Aurora, then Steam as Flapak and later rebased to Bazzite. It was all just for trying stuff out, on my main machine, the install will be clean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks for clarifying!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm totally new to Atomic Desktops. How rebasing differs from installing fresh OS?

And what exactly is rebasing though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I think I've found my answer, it was about SELinux being disabled. Now it says on their official website: "SELinux:

– We have replaced SELinux with AppArmor (AppArmor is used in Ubuntu and OpenSUSE) as we find it to be more user-friendly, less intrusive, and easier to write policies for. You will still see some SELinux packages as they are required to keep Fedora compatibility and not break package dependencies."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. That's basically it. AppArmor isn't a slouch either, but SELinux works well and is well-tested on Fedora. It's a pity. I do think that SELinux > AppArmor, so if security is a serious concern of yours, then it's worth considering Bazzite over Nobara. If, however, security is a top priority of yours, you might even consider secureblue. It's not great for gaming though 😅. At some point, hardening clashes with performance gains...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, that's very helpful. I will have to think about it - it comes down to a question of convenience vs. "best" security possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It has been my pleasure!

it comes down to a question of convenience vs. “best” security possible.

I've solved this for myself by dedicating two different devices; one that's optimized for security, while the other is only used for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank You.

But, how do you put a line in your reply though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're welcome!

xD, it's done by typing three times "-" or "*" next to each other with nothing else on the line itself and the lines before and after. So to illustrate it with quotation marks:

"(Empty)"

"---" (or "***")

"(Empty)"

Note that in the above example, i had to leave another empty line in between the lines. So it's not exactly correct. Unfortunately, without a break line, I can't even illustrate it. So, this is done from necessity. Though, it means that technically, the stars below were one "/" removed from becoming a line.

/***

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank You

For the Illustration.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It has been my pleasure 😊!