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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nanos sees three possibilities to satisfy the appetite for change. Make Pierre Poilievre prime minister. Or retain Justin Trudeau with “new things in the window.” Or switch to a new Liberal leader who is a so-called “blue Liberal” — someone who would take the party back towards the centre, with a more fiscally conservative vision for the country.

What does a blue liberal look like these days?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. Isn't the colour of the liberal party red, but the current one pretty fucking blue already?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Trudeau's policies were actually a shift left, which is part of why the supply-and-confidence agreement is going so well - there's real overlap with the NDP now.

Moving back right either economically or socially seems tricky. Few voters are excited about reduced social spending, and moving right socially would really anger a lot of the Liberal base. If the change of direction was a stronger defense policy I guess I could get behind that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The current Liberals are, economically, pretty blue.

"Blue" is just centrist code for "acceptably racist, sexist and homophobic"/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The current Liberals are economically blue compared to what? They're literally implementing NDP policies right now, and the Greens have one seat. Is this a communist thing? Nobody's voting communist.

Similarly, nobody except the right wing of the Conservative party thinks any of those three things are good. Disagreements from the center leftwards are just about how aggressively to beat down those old demons, and at what price.