196

16748 readers

2291 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

qaz

[email protected]

388

Antinatalism Rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

280 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Need dragon slayers in the time dragons.

[–] Saledovil 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Suffering is inherent to the human condition. Is it okay to undertake actions that cause people suffering?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What makes something okay? Who decides what is okay and what is not okay?

[–] Saledovil 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm taking an utilitarian approach. Suffering should be avoided, and happiness maximized. Bringing another being into existence guarantees suffering, with a chance of creating happiness. That is not a gamble you should take on behalf of another being.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Is the potential (or guarantee) for suffering greater than the potential for joy? You also have to account for the joy of the person and the joy they create. I believe the potential for expected joy exceeds the guarantee of suffering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Suffering should be avoided, and happiness maximized.

This sounds like optimizing two variables. What’s the weighting here?