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Labour wins majority in UK General Elections as Tories lose two-thirds of seats
(www.theguardian.com)
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An overwhelming majority by seats but only 33% of the popular vote.
36% voted Tory/Reform so voters have not shifted left but split the more right wing vote
We already have the left wing vote split by Labour, Lib Dem and Green.
If you want to claim the 36%, you'll need to add up the left wing parties together.
Not left wing. Just left.
None of them are left wing (maybe Green has some left wing stuff?)
green is definately left wing, they're hardly anti immigration and pro-big business, anti environmental regulation, are they?
"no right wing talking points" is hardly left wing.
I have never heard of them be referred to as anything centrist. I don't know why you think they're not left wing, but from what I've heard from you in this thread, I don't particularly think learning about the mechanism of your mind is likely to give me any uplifting insights into humanity nor politics.
You know it's a sliding scale, right?
There's not just three choices.
There's Far-side, side-wing, side, side-leaning, center-side for both (plus center).
Then you have fiscal Vs moral lean on both sides.
But that's better than nothing, right?
And ~54% of the votes went to left(ish) parties, so that's something
I fear that next election reform is going to do much better.
In the mean time, Labor may not have much of a mandate for progressive policies, they'll be creeping to the right to quell support for reform party.
Or having them in parliament might expose them as the one trick pony that they are.
I think Labour have to have a real effect on things in the next 5 years to show that the system can work. That will take the wind out of the right's sails more than anything. Most of the reform vote is people feeling ignored, trod upon, thrown away. Labour has to make the people feel supported.
Perhaps.
I'm less optimistic. The world over voters seem to be drawn towards these populist assholes, and I think it's important to note that the UK is not an exception, despite the labour victory.
Starmers first few speeches in power actually make me optimistic, and I didn't vote for him. If he can truly deliver on being "country before party", and making "personal gain the politics of the past". It's only a words right now, but the cabinet appointments (especially the 3 from outside the party) look good.
It's all down to results.
And socially progressive parties got 56% of the vote. But that's split between about 4 parties.
Its missleading to bass too much on that analysis. The parties don't compete for the popular vote but to concentrate votes within seats they feel they can win.
No one was aiming to win the popular vote. I agree that's a problem but we can't really read to much into the split imo.
Let's hope my doomongering is just that, with other countries in Europe starting to swing that way I hope it's not sign of the future.
So you're tallying the right wing and comparing vs one party on the "left"?