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I think this is great and don't understand why so many people balk at it. Do you think you have an expectation of privacy in a bar? And head counts doesn't tell you how many coeds are there. And this would add an additional layer of security with more eyes able to catch predators spiking drinks or starting fights.
Do you want your drunk antics livestreamed and recorded for the entire world to see forever, instead of just the few people in the bar paying attention?
No, but I'd prevent that by not having drunk antics. It's not like other people in the bar can't see you.
Filing you in public is not a violation of your privacy especially in a limited scope like a single club. That's not at all equivalent to saying I should be able to read your emails.
Public safety needs to be weighed against civil rights. I don't think women should be drugged because of a extreme fundamentalist a paranoid interpretation of privacy rights.
Also people want to club where it's happening. Even if a club has a lot of people they could still not be dancing.
I don't know what bars you frequent, but I'm pretty sure if someone was in there filming strangers they could be kicked out. It depends what kind of place you're in. Filming in a strip club for example would obviously be against the rules. Bars are not publicly owned spaces, and you do have some expectation of privacy in them.
You're out of touch, just visit nearly any page on Instagram to see hours of footage of clubbing and bar hopping.
Well maybe I am out of touch. I don't frequent bars like I used to.
How many of those Instagram posts are of strangers? If people record themselves at bars and post it, why should I care?
They're not the majority but there's certainly a lot of footage of just how packed a club is.
I'm not a tankie. And clubs already do their own closed circuit TV surveillance. And no my argument is not reducto ad absurdum. There is a growing and pervasive problem with drugging drinks in American bars. I only brought it up as a side benefit anyway. I'd really like the convenience of seeing how hot a bar is instead of having to pay to get in only to see that it's lame and leave.
You strike me as a very youthful cop tbh, full of weird ideas of how the world works and with righteous belief that you are right and anyone who has a different pov is wrong... But that's just based on this thread.
All you got is ad hominem attacks and its pathetic. I'm talking about a public live stream where a lot of people would see it and potentially catch predators.
Let me counter with my own ad hominem attack. You sound like a square that doesn't go clubbing. Social people want to club where the most action is at. Not intellectually masturbate online about privacy absolution.
You act like there'd be a camera covering every square inch. A few cameras looking at the bar and dance floor would be enough. You do realize clubs and festivals broadcast live all the time right. Whoops no, no I guess you wouldn't.