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He has some interesting points, but because of america's voting system every vote for him is de facto a vote for Trump.
Can I ask you why you believe that? I feel that conclusion can only be made with many assumptions, especially as even republicans do not like Trump, they literally just hate Joe more (Seriously Bidenomics is a slur in most of the heartland Ive interacted with).
This is my reasoning:
In my opinion, the only way to avoid each election coming down to damage control is to get rid of FPTP voting.
EDIT: The last candidate that wasn't from either party was not George Washington as [email protected] pointed out. It was Millard Fillmore (1850 - 1853).
I'm not entirely sure what point you're making, as there have been multiple other parties whose candidates were elected to the presidency, including the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Democratic-Republicans. Theodore Roosevelt received the second-most votes in the 1912 election as a third-party candidate for the Progressive (Bull Moose) party.
I was trying to argue that candidates that aren't from the Republican or Democratic party haven't been elected from a long time. I looked up the last independent candidate, somehow forgetting that there were more parties. That said, the other candidates are still from more than a century ago.
No, you're still right.
The US has had two major parties for the entirety of its existence. Occasionally one of those two parties collapses and is replaced by another one, but even during these upsets it is always one of the old major parties (the one that didn't collapse) that has their candidate elected.
Furthermore, if you take every third party + every independent and combine all their congressional seats the most they've ever held was 36, and that was in 1833-1835.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election#Popular_vote_results
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
I don't live in a swing state. Connecticut has been reliably won, by a wide margin, by the same party for over 40 years. Voting for Oliver and maybe helping him get enough of the popular vote to be taken seriously in 28 is the only way my vote will matter at all. Take your idiotic generalizations back to reddit.