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Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough (www.xda-developers.com)
submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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There were a number of exciting announcements from Apple at WWDC 2024, from macOS Sequoia to Apple Intelligence. However, a subtle addition to Xcode 16 — the development environment for Apple platforms, like iOS and macOS — is a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple's claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won't be able to use it. There's a memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion in Xcode 16, and it's the closest thing we'll get from Apple to an admission that 8GB of memory isn't really enough for a new Mac in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

8GB is definitely not enough for coding, gaming, or most creative work but it’s fine for basic office/school work or entertainment. Heck my M1 Macbook Air is even good with basic Photoshop/Illustrator work and light AV editing. I certainly prefer my PC laptop with 32GB and a dedicated GPU but its power adapter weighs more than a Macbook Air.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

8GB would be fine for basic use if it was upgradable. With soldered RAM the laptop becomes e-waste when 8GB is no longer enough.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the soldering is outrageous. I miss the time when Apple was a (more) customer friendly company. I could open my Mac mini 2009 and just add more RAM, which I did.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When I bought my first MacBook in ‘07 I asked the guy in the store about upgrading the RAM. He told me that what Apple charged was outrageous and pointed me to a website where I’d get what I needed for much less.

I feel that if Apple could have soldered the RAM back then, they would have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel that if Apple could have soldered the RAM back then, they would have.

Apple used to ship repair and upgrade kits with guides on how to apply them. Not sure they were as anti-repair then as they are now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Embrace, extend, extinguish is an attitude for more than one company I guess.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I mean I develop software on an 8GB laptop. Most of the time it's fine, when I need more I have a desktop with 128GB ram available.

Really depends what type of software you're making. If you're using python a few TB might be required.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

8GB is definitely not enough for coding, gaming, or most creative work but it’s fine for basic office/school work or entertainment.

The thing is, basic office/school/work tasks can be done on any laptop that costs twice less than an 8GB MacBook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is true for part time or casual use but for all day work use including travel you get better build quality and far less problems with a pro grade machine. We spend the same on a macbook, thinkpad, surface or probook for our basic full time users.

While it may be a bit overkill for someone who spends their day in word, excel, chrome and zoom we save money in the long term due to reliability. There is far less downtime and IT time spent on each user over the life of the system (3-4 years). The same is true about higher quality computer accessories.