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[–] [email protected] 141 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sorry citizen, every time you enter the bar we've got to take a swab from your genitals to check that since you were last here you haven't fucked any kids.

Fucking ridiculous. If you want to prevent CSAM spreading across Europe do this instead:

  • new funding for a cross boarder specialist taskforce to coordinate law enforcement agencies.
  • hide the identity of defendant and victim during trials.
  • offer a slightly lighter sentence to offenders if they successfully help with bringing down the rings.
  • a large cross-boarder sting operation.
  • new funding for therapy for offenders to reform them and during and after they've served their time.
  • new funding for a confidential service to provide prevention therapy to potential offenders before they commit that horrid act against a child.

Investigation and surgical removal of the whole rotten ring of kid fuckers will curve CSAM creation and distribution in the EU.

Then preventative measures to stop creators/ consumers of CSAM because prevention is more effective than trying to cure it.

Child sexual abuse is one of, if not the most evil act someone can commit and they should face very steep punishment for it. And anyone proposing any policy offering help to reform them is committing political suicide.

But ignoring the fact that people have the capacity to commit an evil act of that magnitude, demonising them, and then offering no support network to prevent them is not going to solve the problem. It doesn't work for any crime and certainly not this.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately stopping CSAM isn’t the point. The point is eroding privacy and pretending it’s protecting kids.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

Yes, but those policies don’t provide political cover to eliminate everyone’s encryption and privacy, so…

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

new funding for a confidential service to provide prevention therapy to potential offenders before they commit that horrid act against a child.

THIS.

I would recommend watching "Louis Theroux - Among the sex offenders" to get a better understanding of the lack of treatment available for people who don't want to offend but feel compelled. Some of them are crying out for treatment!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Yup. Let's not forget that pedophilia is a mental disorder. I'd assume that many people with pedophilia don't become offenders, but I think that the number of offenders could be much lower still if these people got proper help and treatment before they ever commit a crime.

Sure, if these people actually commit crimes or if they're about to, we have to make sure they're physically unable to get anywhere near children. But I feel like in most circles if someone were to come out and admit they have this mental disorder, they'll be frowned upon, probably lose all their "friends" and not get any help. On the internet, it's far worse than this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

I really believe that this has nothing to do with kids. "For the kids" has made me suspicious of intentions for a long time. It makes it difficult to argue against it because it implies that you're a pedo or are doing something illegal otherwise. You implement general monitoring "for the kids", and then you add some anti piracy stuff to it, then you add some hate group detection, some anti government group detection, etc. Now you have everything you need to get ahead of any danger to the government. If the people can't organize, you can do whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fucking ridiculous. If you want to prevent CSAM spreading across Europe do this instead:

  • Ban churches, cults and other forms of self indulgent mass-schizophenia which promote the letargy of the mind and the seclusion, especially when it comes with the baggage of a self-validating autonomus and indipendent legal sysyem (yes I'm winking at you vatican), as a moral virtues.