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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Is your assumption that third parties solve all our problems if they win?

The problem is the system, not the Individual actors involved. Yes there are some differences, but not enough to fix our current disasters.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This. If we're bringing math into this, then it's mathematically impossible for not voting / 3rd party to change anything in the same way calculus may not be 0 but near-zero enough to be indistinguishable. Combine FPTP with Electoral colleges with the power of existing political parties and the only way you're going to make change is by either one or both of the following things:

  • Supporting one party so greatly you eradicate the other party, creating a vaccuum (eg, send GOP the way of the Whigs). In this situation, Democrats likely reconstitute themselves as the predominant center-right party while we get something of a social Democrat or true Green Party in their original place. A rubber-banding of the Overton window, if you will.

  • Utilize an existing party to change the system. This means evolving the party, which for anyone old enough, recognizes how much Democrats have changed in the last 2 decades relative to the Republicans who have actually somehow managed to only get worse.

These are the only two proven methods to work. Third parties, Independents do not work until the system changes. And in order to change the game you need to first play by the rules of the game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These are the only two proven methods to work. Third parties, Independents do not work until the system changes

the prohibition party got a constitutional amendment passed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

…and kept it that way for less time than Supernatural was on air. not disagreeing just feel that’s important context :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

it was a bad amendment.

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