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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

I have to wonder about the people who are fully 100% convinced that it’s just knowing about gay/trans/queer people that “turns” their children LGBTQ.

It’s like when I asked my youth leader in Bible study when he chose to be straight and he looked me dead in the eyes and answered, “when I was 12”. I wonder if he ever figured it out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think some of that is right, and maybe all of it for a portion of people, but I also believe there are gay or bi people who hate that about themselves and that causes them to be homophobic. I don’t think that’s a large percentage of homophobic people, but I do think it’s not zero.

I don’t blame the gay community or gay people for their own oppression. I blame these bigots, as well as all of the other bigots they join. It doesn’t matter to me what you truly believe underneath or whether your actions are motivated by self hatred.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah statistically it's gotta be that some homophobes are queer. Queer people are 10% of the population, and homophobes are even higher. Two groups that large, there's got to be crossover. Historically, it would have been even moreso the case.

I'm just unconvinced that queer people are the majority of homophobes because that makes no sense, and I'm unconvinced that the study randomly found mostly bi homophobes. The sheer prevalence of the gay homophobe trope is out of proportion with the conditions that would have been capable of creating homophobia in society in the first place and sustaining it.

For one thing, the study asked the men to rate themselves on the Kinsey scale. Those men fully believed they had never felt attraction to another man. And only 20% of the homophobes showed no penile reaction. Meanwhile, 66% of the gay-accepting men had no reaction.

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