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I started learning to code at 9 years old and that helped me become a professional developer in my teens. Preventing access to technology is just removing opportunities from your children. Teach them responsible usage, if it was possible 30 years ago it's possible now.
Nobody does programming on their phones
Staring down enshittified platforms instead of learning actual social interaction. π
E: This may come off as it's their fault. That's not the case of course. That's why adults are having this conversation. The adults before them built the system that gave us these companies which create those enshittified platforms in the neverending search of profit.
Which is fine. Programming is only an example of where opportunity was found in his time, not where current/future people will find opportunity. We don't know what the new opportunities will be. If we did, we'd have already opportunized them to death.
They learn to customize their phones, can figure out how to build apps for them, etc. Mobile programming is, predictably, a very good skill to have right now.
Yeah, and they can learn that during a class or vocational semester for the subject, but everyone needs a solid baseline in core subjects without being constantly distracted.
I'm all in to get programming classes where children learn to code on PCs. That's a high pass for me. But AFAIK children aren't doing programming on their phones.
In general i doubt using a phone at school is going to help them program or teach them about technology. They have plenty of time to explore phones on their own when they get home, especially now that kids don't go much outside anymore. It's not like a school ban would be cutting that away from them.
I mean my dad had me help him code a game on his commodore 64 at 5 but my internet usage in 1999 was still monitored. My dad made sure I understood the dangers and implications of interacting with people online and I knew exactly how to rebuff any kind of solicitation. I never gave names, exact locations etc, when using chats of course asl was a popular thing to ask and I never was more specific than USA. I have also lied about my sex when I'd participate in chats where I found identifying as a girl got me nehative attention. Even then, when my dad wasn't around, as he trusted us after some time... I somehow got porn pop-ups all over my screen and I have to say that I wish I hadn't seen some of the stuff on there lol! We didn't have social media in its present form but youtube became a thing while I was in college and I made the mistake of posting some videos of myself which I'm glad I removed shortly after realizing how embarrassing and cringeworthy they were. I'm just glad the posts I made on street fighter online forums and new grounds weren't on something like Facebook or tik tok... as an adult I went back and deleted these profiles and posts because I obviously was too immature to post. I can't believe what kind if drivel teenage me was spewing online and I'm glad there isn't video evidence of the idiotic things I said and believed. I personally don't care as I stopped teaching before this social media boom but if adults can be twisted and manipulated, pushed toward extremism and critical thinking goes in the backburner, I can't imagine what it does to the mind of a child. Smart phones are great tools if you can somehow limit their functions while in the classroom like some kind of school mode.