this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (17 children)

If everyone here, as they claim, is not against work, then why call it anti work? Why not call it anti labour exploitation?

For all the claims made in this post, I see a hundred saying that wage labor is the same as slavery, so this is a bit hard to believe

[–] julietOscarEcho 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

When I dig my garden I am doing work. That obviously entails no wage labour let alone labour exploitation. Why is it hard to belive people might be against wage labour in its present form but not against fulfilling, self directed labour?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Because getting food from your own garden is cute but absurdly unsustainable for 8 billion people in this world?

Like it or not, factories and large companies are the reason that 8 billion people can love on this planet. Granted, said companies can be quite abusive and a lot of rules are still in place allowing this abuse, but we're getting better at it, ymmv per country. Either way, abuse is not as bad today as it was 100 years ago or even 50 years ago. If automation and AI continue their current course, we'll all be working 2-3 day weeks soon as well.

Either way, I get the point, I'm just saying don't swing too far in the other direction either.

[–] julietOscarEcho 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just an example, take caring for my kids or decorating my house or even working out if you don't like that one. What do you mean by "the other direction"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, I don't understand. You listed child care, and hobbies. What havr those to do with work?

The other direction being this antiwork thing which is highly unrealistic and in reality just a bunch of lazy guys complain about having to actually do work, like everyone else, thinking that somehow magically the world would be so much better if everyone dat on their fat ass

[–] julietOscarEcho 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OK so you're just here to strawman and insult. Thanks for outing yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No I said what my average experience here in this sub was, relating to the original post. Yeah, most people here quite literally simply don't want to work, and somehow think that goods and resources come into existence magically or something. So yes, I call them lazy because that's what they are.

If you want to have a serious discussion about work situations needing to improve I'm all for it. I just don't want to have another discussion about "my vegetable garden will sustain me, the entire world should do this"

Also, I quite literally did not understand what you wrote as you listed childcare and hobbies

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