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I love how you said above that you are giving all these legitimate reasons for hating Biden, and yet the only thing you really said was pro-Israel is bad (no objections there), and somehow pro-renewables are also bad. And yet when I asked what else you think he did wrong or what he could have changed that hadn't been voted against by the conservative congress, you just completely ignored it.
Maybe the problem here isn't people like me trying to vote for the least-damaging leader (because face it, it's either going to be Trump or Biden and nothing you say will change that)... maybe the real problem here is that you're arguing against what you assume are problems that would go away if Biden wasn't in office. Show me a good candidate that could actually win the office and I'll be happy to vote for them. Otherwise the best we can do is voting against the one who is going to hurt the most people.
Biden just signed into law higher tariffs on green energy products produced in China (where the vast majority are produced) in order to restrict supply and keep up the price of solar panels, EVs, and semiconductors in the US. Biden is building the same border wall Democrats were calling Trump a fascist for demanding in 2016, and expanding the immigrant concentration camps to boot. There's also the proxy war in Nazified Ukraine where Ukrainians are thrown into the meat grinder for the MIC and the exhaustion of Russia's resources, the continuation of global US military occupation and debilitating murderous sanctions on the DPRK, Cuba, Iran, and Venezuela. I fail to see where Trump is significantly worse.
Are we talking about the same Trump who set into motion and takes credit for destroying women's rights to the own bodies, and normalized racism again? Destroying other countries is par for the course with pretty much every other president, but Trump takes the cake in his success at tearing apart his own country.
Dems use the threat against women's bodies as a way to buy your vote. They don't actually do the thing they could've done at points over the last several years, i.e. codify abortion rights into law at the federal level.
They also could've gotten RBG to resign or had literally any fight whatsoever over Garland. Instead they immediately made paper thin excuses and their voters happily clapped along. They even characterized the (milquetoast) call for RBG to resign as sexist, lol.
Y'all are a domesticated animals to your political class and the only thing you seem to be able to do is to try and get others to join you on your path to the abattoir.
When was racism not normalized in the US? Wrt abortion, as I’m sure you know it was democrats who refused to codify Roe v. Wade and made it all the more easy for it to be torn down, Biden in the first place openly stating he’s not in favor of “abortion on demand.” The reason it wasn’t codified, though, is that it then couldn’t be used as a campaign strategy by the democrats in future elections. As I said earlier in the thread under this post, it’s well-known that Hillary and the DNC attempted to elevate Trump in the GOP as preferred opposition as well as democrats more recently funneling millions of dollars into the election campaigns of Republicans who deny the validity of the 2020 election results because this makes for what they believe is easy competition. It feels ridiculous to have to mention as well that Roe v. Wade was repealed under Biden’s presidency, and if Biden doesn’t have the power to reverse this then what are you campaigning for?
Unfortunately you're right about racism... It seemed like it might have been getting better at least (although obviously it was still there under the surface), but then mister pussy-grabber made it seem like it was perfectly ok to hang out with the Proud Boys and openly hate anyone who was different. We're not going to fix racism in a generation or two, but at least we had gotten to the point where it was mostly frowned upon in mixed company to talk that way, which meant the kids weren't hearing it as often and understood there was a reason for it. Now a generation that could have sparked a real change has just been face-slammed with open hatred from a standing president and we've probably been set back a full generation on the subject. A similar argument can be made for LGBT+ where people who thought it was finally safe to be themselves are once again being attacked in public.
I'm not surprised about the DNC pushing Trump as a candidate in 2016, hell nobody believed he could win. As for pushing denialists and others... I'll have to look into that, it's not something I have heard about before. I still find that a lot easier to swallow than the GOPs constant tactics of direct voter suppression though
We’re not going to fix racism ever as long as the US exists as a settler-colonial state that keeps the majority of black people in worse conditions and imprisons them en masse. It’s not about rhetoric.
Don’t you get it? The Democrats are elevating Republicans so that they can do and campaign for these exact things which then motivates you to vote for the “lesser evil.”
For pushing denialists, here’s one source.