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Biden rumored to announce quadrupling of tariffs on Chinese EVs, up to 100% (electrek.co)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Making hyperbolic generalized statements don't really help your case.

Like "OMG you have to replace the battery after 10-20 years!"

How old is the oldest care you have ever owned? How much did you spend on maintenance in that time? Total Cost of Ownership matters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm a really bad person to ask that. I've never bought a car (and I'm kind of old) newer than 10 years old and with one exception, I've never spent over $500 in a year on any maintenance or repairs. About 6 of those vehicles were sports cars. Most cars I buy I'll keep a few years and then sale for 0 loss. I'm fully aware I'm the exception to the rule, but not enough to offset the EV cost. Older used EVs will be worth so much less than other cars. People will quickly learn that buying an old EV means they'll have to tack on an extra $15k for a battery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good for you that you are recycling old cars. I do the same - our 2nd car is a 1993 Corolla with 275k on it. Drives fine. For you an EV doesn't make sense and that's just fine. But:

People will quickly learn that buying an old EV means they’ll have to tack on an extra $15k for a battery.

This is the sort of crap people spew when they can't be bothered to research stuff and just use "facts" they "heard". They generalize and round way up and now these are the new "facts". I have to imagine you can do better.

Not all batteries are $15k - far from it. Many are $6-7k Given that maintenance and TCO at that point are extremely low, that's not bad over the lifetime of a car. Ever had to replace an engine? Easily in the same range for some cars.
It's not a given that an "old" EV needs a new battery. Lifespans are easily 10 years or more and lose range at about 1-2% per year or 10% every 200,000 miles.
Battery costs have plummeted and continue to fall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most are not six or $7k. In fact very few are. Just in this thread is a person who had to spend $9k to replace the battery on their 2017 Leaf. A subcompact with a meager 100 mile range, if it isn't too cold outside.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it's not $15k. Glad we established that.

100 miles is a lot for most people. Do you drive more than that in a day?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol. Nah, bro. It's $15k for an EV that can replace the average persons ice. A Nissan Leaf can't do that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

You really just can't be bothered to deal with actual facts, can you?