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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

People's safety is more important than people's feelings.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Indeed. It strikes me as pointlessly gendered. All people, safety is more important than feelings.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The whole thing was meant to be rage bait.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

or it's purposefully gendered in response to the man vs bear thing

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Which is also rage bait

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

~~you know what else is pointlessly gendered? the patriarchy~~

feminist messaging has to be gendered because the patriarchy is a gender issue.

that said, feminism is for everybody. liberating women from oppressive structures by nature does the same for men.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If it’s not gendered and is for everybody, that isn’t that just the original statement? That safety is for everybody? That seems rather circular.

But I think I get what you’re saying. We focus on lifting up women, and everyone benefits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

yeah i see how my comment was a little confusing let me try to edit :p thanks for the good faith question tho

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Hey no worries. More people should act in good faith in my opinion. We don’t even have to agree with everyone but we should have mutual respect for each other and want a better world.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If this weren't gendered I'm not sure I would connect that this was posted as result of people's reaction to the bears vs men thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Ah, good point! None of us would be here in that case.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That gives me feelings of "All lives matter" which minimized the issues of black people. Can you explain why this is different?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except one has built in meaning and the other is a simple meme made by one person with an oversimplified idea used likely to stir up people considering all the discussions happening about bears or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's disingenuous all the way down

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

BLM, no sarcasm.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

this statement is funny to me, because linguistically, safety is a relatively "felt" concept. We "feel" exposed in a massive open field, and we "feel" safe inside of a building, because we are no longer exposed in a massive wide open field.

In some aspects, physical safety is a thing, but given the context of this thread here, i think it's probably appropriate to say that it's actually the feeling of safety here, that matters more than anything. And as a result, this makes the statement a non starter.

Because to some degree, that feeling of safety, is based on well... Feelings, and if feelings are somehow less important than the safety that those feelings are capable of deriving, than how are you supposed to experience safety?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Are you really all lives mattering this post rn? God damn dude. I hope every person in your life belittles every problem you personally have by telling you that tons of people have that problem.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago

BLM, no sarcasm.