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Eurovision expresses disappointment over performer wearing pro-Palestinian symbol (tribune.com.pk)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The musician was seen wearing a keffiyeh on his arm, a symbol commonly used to show support for Palestine.

In reponse, a representative of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) said in a statement: “All performers are made aware of the rules of the contest, and we regret that Eric Saade chose to compromise the non-political nature of the event.”

Despite facing criticism for its decision not to exclude Israel and worldwide protests condemning the organizers' choice, the competition maintained its stance.

“Politics does influence the event from time to time,” said Paul Jordan, a contest enthusiast and researcher who was part of its communications team from 2015 to 2018, in an interview with CNN.

However, he noted, “the presence of Israel has become such a big issue (that) I think it’s going to overshadow the event.”

The news comes during Israel’s seizure and closure of the Rafah crossing in Gaza, which has raised concerns that already-scarce food and medical supplies will be further depleted and lead to a “catastrophic” humanitarian disaster.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that Hamas are so inept that they didn't know what was going to happen after Oct 7? No, they knew, and counted on it to get support and to wreck any goodwill Israel had with their neighbours and the world.

Don't take me writing this as support for Israel. I hate their right wing fascist government as much as I hate the terrorists in Hamas.

There are no good guys in this, and both are fine with the killing of innocent civilians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd say the scale of civilian death achieved through the deliberate targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure is so extreme, it could not have been foreseen. It is a vastly disproportionate response.

No, they knew, and counted on it to get support and to wreck any goodwill Israel had with their neighbours and the world.

This is just wrong. The western powers have unwaveringly supported Israel from the beginning. Only just recently has the US decided to perhaps reduce the weapon shipments to Israel, after vast destruction and loss of life has already occurred.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’d say the scale of civilian death achieved through the deliberate targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure is so extreme, it could not have been foreseen. It is a vastly disproportionate response.

Agreed that it's disproportionate. Somewhat conflicted on the "deliberate targeting" as I think it's more of a "don't care as long as we also hit something that might be Hamas". Still certain that Hamas knew what would happen and already had a plan to use it for propaganda purposes.

This is just wrong. The western powers have unwaveringly supported Israel from the beginning. Only just recently has the US decided to perhaps reduce the weapon shipments to Israel, after vast destruction and loss of life has already occurred.

Israel already have all the weapons they need to flatten Gaza completely. Hamas tactics are kind of working though. Although most western governments support Israel, this is causing internal issues (protests etc) in those countries, which weakens those governments, which will translate to less support for Israel. I suspect it won't do much in the short term, except perhaps strengthen the resolve of the Israeli government, which will only translate into more suffering for the Palestinian people.

The only people who can stop this suffering is the Israeli and Palestinian people, which they were trying to do before all this kicked off, and likely one of the reasons why one of the most pro-Palestine kibbutzes (Be'eri?) was hit so hard. Both Hamas and the Israeli government gain from this conflict, sickening as it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Somewhat conflicted on the "deliberate targeting"

Intentionally striking hospitals, aid workers, journalists, and families in their homes, is the deliberate targeting of civilians.

Still certain that Hamas knew what would happen and already had a plan to use it for propaganda purposes.

When a faction commits war crimes, the propaganda writes itself.

Israel already have all the weapons they need to flatten Gaza completely.

Yet the US continues to send military equipment and munitions.

The only people who can stop this suffering is the Israeli and Palestinian people

Not entirely. Israel relies heavily on foreign (US) capital. Threat of divestment and/or sanctions would likely be quite effective.