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Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

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By the way, the earlier posted article https://restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain had an update starting at the paragraph with title Update: Statement from Proton and additional commentary

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[–] JasSmith 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is near the top on their landing page:

With Proton, your data belongs to you, not tech companies, governments, or hackers.

In the EU, one's IP address can be considered private data as it can be used for identification. So far Proton has been caught handing over alternative email addresses and IP addresses, meaning their primary USP isn't really accurate. At least not insofar as governments are concerned. I understand this occurred via Swiss court order, but they should not be headquartered in Switzerland. Panama has a history of rejecting foreign interference. All unencrypted data should be stored in Panama.

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[–] JasSmith 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Proton is as private as it can possibly (and legally) be

That's clearly inaccurate, since they could be headquartered in Panama, and store their data there. That would make them immune to Swiss court orders. There are already hosts which provide server space in Panama for exactly this reason.

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[–] JasSmith 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LOL you can’t be serious. They would just be subject to Panamanian court orders.

Yes, and since Panama has a long history of telling foreign nations to fuck off, data is much safer there than in Switzerland. At least as a non-Panamanian. You claim Switzerland is the "most privacy-respecting country on the planet," but I'd like to see the evidence. Since they comply with every court order, then I would argue one's data is no safer in Switzerland than most other European countries. Which is to say, completely unsafe from most Western governments.