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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Because China is not a normal country and all of its industry is controlled by the state. It desperately wants the world to forget that its the kind of country that runs over its citizens with tanks, uses forced labor and has hundreds of concentration camps, but it would be kind of silly to go along with that when it has not changed from that course.

Their long-term plan is to slow boil global opinion through a mass social engineering projects and propaganda into accepting that it's ok and normal for a government to operate in the way that the CCP does.

As long as the CCP is in power anything it does should should be observed about with a healthy dose of suspicion.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile the US has successfully made people forget about the revelations that Edward Snowden made.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The US rolled our democratically elected government in the 70s and we still lick their boots to this day. You'd be forgiven for thinking I was talking about a country in the third world, but I'm talking about Australia.

Edit, source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Midnight Oil made a song about it, "Power and the Passion."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah but whatabout the 30 million people Mao killed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the post is about a new RISC-V laptop and someone came in with "butwhatabout china!!'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

That's not whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

You sound like a tankie. I bet you think the Tik Tok ban is unfair, while staying quiet on any of the dozen+ western companies and platforms that are outright blocked in China.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You got them mixed with Israel. From malicious spyware and surveillance to running over civilians with tanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Israel is quite bad, yes, and the genocide is horrible, but I'd argue China is illustrative of what comes after democracy fails in a place and it has passed through the stage that Israel is currently in.

China is a totalitarian state where information is so tightly controlled and the people so thoroughly decieved (or enslaved) that industrialized genocide is carried out at a scale unseen since the Nazis without the general population knowing or even caring.

That kind of "civilized" totalitarianism in which dissent is quite literally not possible is the terminus of any form of facism. When Orwell talked about a boot stamping on a human face forever, that's what China is.

So no, as bad as Israel is and as much as they need to be confronted and are untrustworthy, China is far worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Israel and China are both authoritarian shitholes, but China is much worse. Boycott both of them, as well as all the other authoritarian shitholes on this planet

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Tank man was not ran over.